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Claiming funding for looking after my son

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RandomAccessMemory · 11/10/2017 08:08

I'm a Childminder in Essex and as well as looking after other parent's children I also look after my own son, my son turned three a week ago and I was looking forward to being able to claim free entitlement funding for him from the spring term.

However I have just discovered that because I'm looking after my own son the local authority will not allow me to claim the funding for him, they say that there is a blanket ban on childminders claiming funding for children whom they are related to.

I don't want to send him to another childminder so should I kick up a fuss? I don't see why I should miss out just because I happen to be looking after him.

OP posts:
Hidingalion · 11/10/2017 08:41

NRPs not paying for their children, that should be.

kaytee87 · 11/10/2017 08:43

You can't get paid for looking after your own son...come on I'd have thought that would be obvious.

MrsJayy · 11/10/2017 08:44

I guess that is the advantage of working from home you can work and look after your own children, I can't believe how indignant you are about this you want money so your child can stay in his own house for 15 hours a week put him to nursery and get another mindee

PrincessoftheSea · 11/10/2017 08:44

Omg thanks for a good giggle though OPGrin

Havingahorridtime · 11/10/2017 08:44

Childminders and nurseries are entirely different. Employing a childminders helper in your own home is not remotely the same as running a nursery with many staff, different overheads etc. its stretching the imagination to try and compare a childminders assistant to running a nursery.

FlakeBook · 11/10/2017 08:45

YANBU, OP.

Childminding is the OP's business. She claims early years funding for 3 and 4 year olds in her care. The fact that one of them is her son is irrelevant.

She isn't getting paid to deliver early years education. Not for childcare.

A school gets funding for a pupil if their parent is the teacher. Nobody says, "send him to another school if you want funding".

The child is part of the legal ratio. Meaning she can't take another child.

It's part of a culture of undervaluing childminders and early years education.

SloeSloeQuickQuickGin · 11/10/2017 08:46

I follow your logic OP - I would find another compliant childminder friend and arrange to look agfter each others children and claim the funding, whether any children actually swapped hands is a private matter Grin

peppapigearworm · 11/10/2017 08:47

I don't see why I should miss out just because I happen to be looking after him

This is a joke, right? You want the government to pay you for looking after your own child?
If you want to claim the free hours childcare, send him to a childminder. You may be one, but not to him.

And yabvu.

Havingahorridtime · 11/10/2017 08:47

Right. I'm going to have some more babies and get myself registered as a childminder so that I can claim free funding for the preschoolers and childcare tax credits for the babies and toddlers even though they are at home with me 24-7. I won't need to look after any other children though as I will be loaded from looking after my own children. Hmm

ElizabethShaw · 11/10/2017 08:48

Having - they follow the same curriculum and welfare requirements and provide the same education for the funding though. What's the difference between a childminder with a couple of staff and a nursery with a couple of staff, other than who lives on the premises? Funding isn't dependent on what your overheads are.

Slartybartfast · 11/10/2017 08:48

when he starts school does matter, you have just less than 2 years before he starts school .

Missingstreetlife · 11/10/2017 08:49

Good argument for citizens wage or wages for housework!!
You already get ni contributions towards pension if you claim child benefit, and other benefits, education, health care etc. Why not be paid for child care, bringing up future generation. Tax can be clawed back from rich and business to fund. Someone tell Jeremy Corbyn.

Completely stupid government want all children separated from parents and schooled before they are ready. Child care is good if it suits the family, but why should that support not be available for sahp?
Only consideration would be childminder regs, and can op not favour her child, or other children, if all cared for together.

SaucyJack · 11/10/2017 08:49

By that logic Flake, then home edders should receive a teacher's salary from the government.

RandomAccessMemory · 11/10/2017 08:50

when he starts school does matter, you have just less than 2 years before he starts school .

Yes, but what is your point?

I know I have less than two years before he starts school.

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Havingahorridtime · 11/10/2017 08:50

I don't agree flake. There is usually a cost to working and having children, whether that be paying for childcare or reducing your earning potential to look after your children yourself.

Slartybartfast · 11/10/2017 08:50

change your name op!
i know there must be same way round this.
can you get tax relief?

peppapigearworm · 11/10/2017 08:50

By that logic Flake, then home edders should receive a teacher's salary from the government

Excellent point. OP, I presume you agree that they should?

Slartybartfast · 11/10/2017 08:52

I know OP, you find out how you can claim extra money and then let the rest of us know

dantdmistedious · 11/10/2017 08:52

Really? Why on earth should you get funding.

TanginaBarrons · 11/10/2017 08:53

Love the selective quoting that the OP is doing from the one or two posters that think she has a point. Perhaps think about what everyone else has said OP.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 11/10/2017 08:54

You want to be paid to look after your own child?

If you feel that strongly about it ask his dad to pay you.

I do not think I have ever read something so twattish in my life

ElizabethShaw · 11/10/2017 08:55

Saucy - if home edders provide the same curriculum as schools, adhere to the same legal requirements and same number of hours of education, provide the same data to the local authority and are regulated and inspected by Ofsted and get funding for unrelated children then they should also get funding for their own children at the same per child level as schools ( not the same as a teacher's salary).

NeedMoreSleepOrSugar · 11/10/2017 08:55

The funding is there to help people get back to/stay in work. (Setting aside educational benefits as irrelevant to this thread)

If you choose to look after your own child, great, but you can't expect to be paid for that. If you need the extra income of another funded place, then send your child to a funded place and take another child on - then the funding is doing what it's intended to do.

RandomAccessMemory · 11/10/2017 08:56

Excellent point. OP, I presume you agree that they should?

They should get some funding yes.

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Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 11/10/2017 08:56

Haha!! What in the name of God do you think you’re missing out on?

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