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AIBU: to want to address the problems in our relationship and not let go?

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HopelessToad · 10/10/2017 18:15

I feel like such a piece of scum.
It feels like it's mostly my fault as well.

I've been childish, neglectful, irresponsible, a selfish lover just to name a few of my many mistakes.

I'm so ashamed of myself.

I've let the most perfect person leave my side. Ruined the best relationship I could possibly ask for and lost my family as a result.

I need help.

Our finances were not great to begin with. I had spent some time in prison for a minor offence related to social justice protesting. Before I met my Ex I was going off the rails with activist related activity coupled within a cycle of self destruction and Ex got me out of this silliness. During the spell in prison my Ex acquired a new home for us. Upon my return it was difficult for me to find full time work because of lack of previous employment. I had never had a proper job before this point. It took 3 months until I was bringing in a full time wage between 2 jobs but 6 months until I had a secure full time job. This lasted for a further 2 and a half months as I decided to pursue a degree to make the most of what feels like a very still period before my conviction becomes spent. I was forced to cut back my hours to study but coupled with my loan it just about balanced if not just under. If we were to make some lifestyle changes like not going out so much it wouldn't have been a problem. It didn't greatly affect our ability to pay bills as we could previously but we were still both flippant when spending.

Despite our poor organisation and management we were really happy with where we were going. My Ex was training into a new amazing career I found and encouraged her into. She's going to shine there. We were discussing getting married and talking about our future goals in depth.

It all started last year. I set aside enough of my student loan to pay off a big chunk of our rent, the tenancy is in her name so I pestered her for a 2 weeks to make the arrangements with the estate agents. This never happened. Long story short, we both spent all this money indulging ourselves...stupid I know and with it being in my account I take full responsibility for allowing it to happen but yeh then... I discovered that during our brief time apart she had cheated. Which, now, I don't blame her for. She was alone, with our DC (2 dogs, 4 cats) in pretty poor circumstances before getting our home.
This was fresh news to me and I'm a very emotional person. She begged me not to break up with her, and, I didn't but it did effect me.
I got very untrustworthy, paranoid and would have panic attacks at work. I started to become quite lazy and apathetic but despite that I was still passionately in love with Her(and I still am now). She gave me her online social media account details voluntarily as a gesture to show that nothing would happen again.
I lost my job due to lateness over this period and, Although obtaining a new job relatively quickly, lost that due to an argument with the manager in some frankly childish circumstances thatre my fault entirely although I wasn't in a great mood working here as my ex had been in touch with the person shed cheated with while she was working here the year previously. I was then out of work for 3-4 months and during this time my ex spent her inheritance to cover our bills and grovelled to her family. It was awful.

Due to this immense pressure I offered to put my degree on hold until she finished her training so that we wouldn't be in any financial difficulties.

Despite that i went through helpless episodes where I thought everything was repeating itself and that she would up and leave so I decided to reapply for my degree after affirmation from other people that this was a good decision to make. I then discovered while researching that if I transferred elsewhere I would be able to get a better degree, work less and still contribute more than a 40 hour minimum wage job over a 12 month period.

She discovered the application before I spoke to her about it and of course, you can imagine what entailed.

Shortly after this I returned back to work but over the course of this time we had frequent, but dispersed arguments about random small things, it actually ridiculous. I felt like this was just stress and pressure and felt like we were working through everything. Slowly but surely. She was still talking about getting married next year, it just felt like a rough area to get through.

Nothing much else was said about the university issue but eventually I decided to go after realising my income would be far better than working a 40 hour a week job because of our change of circumstances on the year before. Due to the arguments about this previously I got very scared about bringing this up and shamefully revealed it in a text message at midnight while next to her in bed two weeks before I was due to start.

It wasn't good of me.

During this time she spent a lot of time talking to male colleagues...perfectly innocent but it upset me and made me feel uncomfortable so I asked her to reduce this and, well, she felt I was asking her to not have any friends at all and it caused further problems.

We both got a little secretive with our phones at this point..Ect...but nothing majorly problematic, we still did everything together.

Despite all this we talked and she hesitantly agreed to trial university...

I should mention that over these few months we had one major argument and I said some really nasty things that I didn't mean and I'm so disgusted by.

The couple weeks before I was due to go to university I stopped working so much, 1 day a week. I didn't communicate this but it was because I was anticipating my student loan coming through and wanted to spend as much time with our pets and getting everything else in order before I left.

Anyway, so she took me to university, begged me the entire way not to go, begged me to come home with her the whole time. I foolishly thought this was just nerves because of all the stress we were going through.

The first week passed. I come home. Everything is great, we're cuddling, kissing nothing unusual and over the course of the night she gets really cold with me and...after pressing for a conversation she says she wants to go on a break...I felt something else was up and asked but she said no. When she went to bed, I checked her social media to discover she had been talking to a colleague for weeks about how much she wanted to do stuff with...you know and had even been having an explicit conversation while we were talking about 'us'.

I completely flipped out, woke her up shouting and said more stuff I don't mean and regret massively. I then messaged some of our friends and her parents it's fucking disgraceful. I don't know what came over me. It felt like a repeat of January except happening in real time and I was crumbling to pieces.

It feels like in the last couple months we just kept going tit-for-tat on issues instead of really talking to each other as we had always previously done.

She uses her phone excessively so I do.

She goes to other people for advice so I do.

She messaged some of my friends saying I was neglecting our family so in the end I message her friends saying she's cheated.

Frankly, it's a childish disgrace and should have never come to that in the first place.

My problem is that:

It's nothing that can't be addressed

But for the past 6 months we've been expressing our frustration with other people...and just our frustration so obviously we are going to be biased toward ourselves

This means that

I have people telling me she's a bad person and to leave

She has people telling her that I'm a bad person and encouraging her to be with her now new partner of, incidentally 3 weeks.

I have no doubt that the new guy is a nice guy and he's done some great things but I know my ex so well and I'm sure that while she may feel something now, he just happened to give an ear at the right time. He is much better as a friend to her than a partner and I'm sure they would both be better off as friends and colleagues for life than a rebound relationship...then again am I just in denial?

Before January...everything was on the up...everything...

And despite everything that's happened in this small space of time...

I understand her emotionally like no one else does

She understands me emotionally like no one else does

We'd began to build a family, aspire to a future

And we had an extensive list of memories that so many people would envy!

The break up, 3 weeks in, has made me realise what really matters to me.

And I can let go of everything and would do absolutely anything for the slightest opportunity to try, just, one more time. Even if we just began as friends.

AIBU to think that there is any hope and to try, even if it means waiting, to get back to what we had before we both allowed external influences to dictate how we acted?

All I want to do is address, directly every single mistake that I made and try one more time, without the baggage I was bringing.

OP posts:
pictish · 10/10/2017 23:04

Your personalities don't sync well at all - she finished with you because you're possessive and emotionally abusive to her.
Now you're following the template by refusing to accept that it's over.

I understand her emotionally like no one else does.
If you understand her emotionally like you say, then your conduct was calculated and cruel. You knew how to hurt her and you did.

She understands me emotionally like no one else does.
So what? It doesn't mean she owes you a relationship.

We'd began to build a family, aspire to a future.
And? She can walk away from daydreams any time she likes.

And we had an extensive list of memories that so many people would envy!
So what? They're memories...you don't need to be together to have them. They don't make her obligated to you in any way.

The break up, 3 weeks in, has made me realise what really matters to me.
I'm sure she made you aware that she wasn't happy, long before she actually broke up with you. If you didn't realise it then, she has made the right decision to end things. You didn't care that she was unhappy, but now that you are, it's a big epiphany is it? Whatever.

And I can let go of everything and would do absolutely anything for the slightest opportunity to try, just, one more time. Even if we just began as friends.
You'd never accept just being friends. Don't lie, especially to yourself. You want to reestablish contact and sucker her back in.

AIBU to think that there is any hope and to try, even if it means waiting, to get back to what we had before we both allowed external influences to dictate how we acted?
Stop blaming other people for your actions and thinking they had influence over hers. You both have awareness and autonomy. No one made either of you do or say anything...you are responsible for yourselves. You are clutching at straws with this one. Forget it.

All I want to do is address, directly every single mistake that I made and try one more time, without the baggage I was bringing.
Please no. Who wants to sit through that festival of self pity? Have some dignity and walk away.

Seriously...my advice is to move on and learn how the chill the fuck out so you don't make the same mistakes again in the future.

MorrisZapp · 10/10/2017 23:12

Have I read this right? She has a new partner?

Er. I don't think she wants to be with you.

SonicBoomBoom · 10/10/2017 23:25

A lot of "this happened, and I take full responsibility for it, but it wasn't really my fault as here are the mitigating circumstances".

Sounds like a monumentally shite relationship. Just go your separate ways; this is not fixable.

mummymeister · 10/10/2017 23:27

people some times just run out of steam. they just reach that point where a line is crossed and usually by something trivial or something that you would think was fixable but its like a switch that gets turned off and that's it. you have to respect that. you have to respect the fact that her red line has been crossed and that's it no going back.

accept that. think about what went wrong and what you could do differently next time. and move on. she has, you need to.

flyingspaghettimonster · 11/10/2017 02:03

You sound perfect for each other... is this an episode of birds of a feather?

Isetan · 11/10/2017 05:59

Your behaviour and that of your Ex’s are not separate from your characters.

It’s very simple, she has a right to end your relationship but you don’t have the right to have one with her. As painful as it is, respect her decision and leave her alone and for Gods sake, take responsibility and work on your many issues. Love doesn’t conquer all and the immaturity that you’ve both shown resulted in a very toxic relationship.

If you knew her as well as you think you do, you wouldn’t be here.

Tiddlywinks63 · 11/10/2017 06:14

...it's nothing that can't be addressed
Really? 😳
This 'relationship' is beyond toxic, and as for DCs being cats and dogs ffs.
As a pp said, 'sounds like a monumentally shite relationship'

LivingInLaLaLand · 11/10/2017 08:11

I'm sorry, I know you are hurting right now & cant see the wood for the trees, but this was not a good relationship, but a toxic cesspit. You really are better off without each other & you will see that in time when you have moved on. We all have memories & old time bonds with people that weren't right for us, but at the time it felt like losing them is the end of the world. It isn't, the relationship is clearly toxic & no good for either of you.

Moving on is the kindest thing you can do for each other & definitely for yourself. You take the blame for everything thing wrong here, yet she's cheated & not taken finances seriously or taken responsibility for her actions in quite a childish way. You own up to being too nervous to have important conversations with her, so why on earth do you think this is a perfect love. It really isn't, it's an addiction that you need to break & move on from. You are not responsible for her anymore than she is you, you are both grown ups & it should be an equal partnership, but it isn't, you clearly feel responsible for everything, whilst she cheats if she feels you let her down in anyway. That really isn't a healthy relationship & you will understand that when you look back after you have finally moved on.

Take time out for yourself, heal, explore with a counsellor why you feel everything is on your shoulders & your fault, that's not healthy, I suspect the roots of this lie in your childhood, it often does. Concentrate on your studies, put the effort & mental investment into bettering yourself & career & you will heal & be able to move on. She needs to do this too, but that's her own choice of path now, not yours. In time you will look back on this & realise how toxic it really was - good luck

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