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To not know whether to admire Darren and Shanine or not

68 replies

CathyMedici · 08/10/2017 20:45

He's 24 going on 68 and she's 22. They've just bought their first home with a 20 year mortgage which they might pay off in 13 if they stick to their life plan of having no fun at all.

Darren says 'I've always been a saver. I hate spending money. The problem with most people is they don't understand the value of money"

They don't do foreign holidays but enjoy letting their hair down in Dawlish. No flash cars or kebabs.

Daily Mail link

OP posts:
frieda909 · 08/10/2017 21:23

They haven't done anything impressive. They lived with their parents rent-free while they saved up their deposit. I'm sure lots of us could do the same thing if we had the luxury of being able to live somewhere rent-free for a few years!

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 08/10/2017 21:27

Are they married? I bet theyre the type to "invite" guests to bring a dish for their wedding reception.

Shanine said: 'If people didn't do that they could save enough to buy their own house within a year easily.

If people didn't spend £100 on a night out? How many fucking nights do you think there are in a year shanine pet?

TheFirstMrsDV · 08/10/2017 21:27

Its hardly news is it?
Young working couple with supportive families save for deposit whilst living at home and move into a fixer upper in a (relatively) cheap part of the country.
WTF is so outstanding about that?

They can come up by me and see if they can get a detached three bed for less than 600k and see how smug they are after that.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 08/10/2017 21:28

Ah but you see they "Avoided the temptation of renting"- yes, very clever, live somewhere rent-free for six, seven years...why didn't we all think of that?
Grin

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 08/10/2017 21:28

Yes it says in the caption they bought the house with no help. So living rent free with your parents while working full time as an adult isn't help? Wonder how their parents feel about that comment? And their friends that provided the free labour for decorating it?

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 08/10/2017 21:29

The temptation of renting Grin they haven't a fucking clue have they?

Papergirl1968 · 08/10/2017 21:32

Wow, there are some —bitchy— jealous comments on here.
They’re sensible, which a lot of people interpret as boring.
I did similar as a single person. Saved so I only needed a smallish mortgage, paid it off, saved again, moved into a bigger house with a smallish mortgage, which I’ve now paid off. I’m now taking a few years out as my adopted dds need a high level of input.
It’s a great feeling of security when you know your property belongs to you, not the bank.
People waste thousands on flash cars, the latest phones and gadgets, and exotic holidays, not to mention endless clothes and drinking themselves stupid. Doesn’t make sense to me but I guess we’re all different [shrug].

histinyhandsarefrozen · 08/10/2017 21:35

This appeals to the daily mail reader who typically bought his/her property at only four times the average salary, (compared to ten times nowadays). They like to pretend that the young are feckless, when actually what they have been is fecked. (Fucked)

MarthaArthur · 08/10/2017 21:35

papergirl i think the comments people are making on here directly relate to the crappy attitude of the two in the article. I read the op and thought good for them until I read the bilge they were quoted in the article.

Lilymoose · 08/10/2017 21:35

They sound a bit boring, may regret not making the most of being young as well.

HolyShmoly · 08/10/2017 21:38

I refuse to click any link to the fail I think this is the same story as was in ladbible earlier, the girl actually commented to say that the story had been taken out of context from where it originally appeared. They had started saving while in low paying jobs, but he has studied and worked and progressed. She said she's still working in retail but she didn't say whether she's in a better paid position. I think she said that they paid board at home as well, but I do doubt that it was the same amount as others have to pay privately.
IME the majority of people I know who bought a house had help from parents. For those of us that didn't there was a lot of saving and compromise and I still feel really lucky.

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 08/10/2017 21:39

People waste thousands on flash cars, the latest phones and gadgets, and exotic holidays, not to mention endless clothes and drinking themselves stupid. Doesn’t make sense to me but I guess we’re all different [shrug].

And plenty don't have any of those things and still could never buy a 4 bed house aged 22. These two could do with acknowledging the very good luck that facilitated their current success.

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 08/10/2017 21:42

Screen shot of her comment on ladbible. She doesn't seem to understand the difference between paying for the food you eat/utilities you use and paying rent. They are not the same thing. She lived rent free at her parents.

To not know whether to admire Darren and Shanine or not
Sugarcoma · 08/10/2017 21:42

Some nasty comments on here. They haven’t been “lucky” - they’ve worked hard and made loads of sacrifices so good for them. Might not be everyone’s cup of tea but you can’t fault them for being practical and having their priorities straight, certainly in terms of forgoing things like flashy cars etc which the Instagram generation is obsessed with (just follow the Rich Kids of Instagram hashtag to see).

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 08/10/2017 21:43

What I want to know is who contacted the press.

NoArmaniNoPunani · 08/10/2017 21:44

One day Shanine will return from work early to find Darren hiding in the loft in his rubber gimp suit. No one can be that dull.

Flopjustwantscoffee · 08/10/2017 21:46

I don't think the rich kids of instagram is a good indicator of how the majority of the "imstGram" generation (millennials?) live...

TheFirstMrsDV · 08/10/2017 21:46

What sacrifices?
They are living the sort of life many of us do.
Its normal
Like I said. They have lived at home, saved a deposit and moved into a first buyer's house.
They haven't done anything newsworthy or worthy at all.

It a non story wrapped up as a morality tale.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 08/10/2017 21:46

I have no feelings about them, I object to the propoganda their story has become. (And the people who suck it up of course)

Most 24 yr olds now can't buy and won't be able to buy - unless they are given a massive leg-up. (Like years of rent free living perhaps)

No amount of hard work/cheap holidays/old cars is going to change that.

Still mail readers can read this and sleep easy tonight- if only young people made sacrifices instead of moaning...

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 08/10/2017 21:46

They haven’t been “lucky” - they’ve worked hard and made loads of sacrifices so good for them.

No, not lucky at all. Everyone has parents who are alive/like their children/can afford to have them at home rent free as adults. And everyone meets their partner at 14/16 and stays together until they're ready to buy a house. Everyone keeps their health or job to allow them to earn and save. Hmm

Papafran · 08/10/2017 21:47

Ah but you see they "Avoided the temptation of renting"- yes, very clever, live somewhere rent-free for six, seven years...why didn't we all think of that?

Yes, histiny, it is so darn tempting to flush £650 down the bog every month on rent when you could just live rent-free in one of the many suitable and available places.

And Papergirl1968 if the 1968 refers to your year of birth, your experience of buying a house as a single person in your early 20s is not particularly relevant to be honest. Times have changed massively. There is a whole generation of people who are unlikely to ever buy and it sure as hell is not because they are wasting cash on iphones and avocado on toast. Although it's nice for the Gen X and babyboomers to tell themselves that.

The problem with the article is that these two have had a lot of help in terms of rent-free living that others will not have. They also clearly have a combined salary which is quite high or they would not have got a mortgage for a property of that price. Yet they appear to believe that anyone can get a mortgage, even on minimum wage. No, that is simply not true. They also put the failure of others their age to buy down to frivolity and laziness which takes the piss given that many young people are living in relative poverty.

Oh and I own my home now (older than them when I bought though- too many kebabs) so I am not jealous. But let's not pretend it's as easy as they say.

TheFirstMrsDV · 08/10/2017 21:48

They go on holidays and out with their mates.

What are they sacrificing exactly?

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 08/10/2017 21:51

If shanine is a retail sales advisor like I was a retail sales advisor then she is on minimum wage. Without Dazza she wouldn't have a hope in hell of owning that or any other house.

YokoReturns · 08/10/2017 21:52

Here are the myriad reasons the Fail love these two movers and groovers:

They don’t like avocado toast brunches
They didn’t go to uni (we’ve had enough of experts)
They like saving money
They’re young fogeys
They probably vote Conservative / Brexit
They joyless grafters
They live a 1970s existence

Disclaimer: I might have extrapolated some of the above from their general demeanour Grin

HolyShmoly · 08/10/2017 21:52

Sugarcoma: 'Some nasty comments on here. They haven’t been “lucky” - they’ve worked hard and made loads of sacrifices so good for them. Might not be everyone’s cup of tea but you can’t fault them for being practical and having their priorities straight, certainly in terms of forgoing things like flashy cars etc which the Instagram generation is obsessed with (just follow the Rich Kids of Instagram hashtag to see).'

The entire point of that hashtag is that it is not the norm. We've worked hard and made sacrifices but we are still lucky to be able to own our own home. Unfortunately we're not lucky enough to live in the same country as our family so couldn't save an additional £500 a month on rent alone, nor can we call in family and friends to help with trades. We've owned one car, which is for DH's work (and the cost is covered by his expenses) and the only holiday that could in any ways be considered flashy was our honeymoon. We didn't even have a big wedding, by anyone's standards. We've rented and then bought in more downmarket areas to make our money stretch.
We grafted, we saved, we made sacrifices, we're still lucky. If we lived somewhere more expensive, so still unable to purchase, would we just 'not have our priorities right'?

It's those damn avocado lattes again, right?

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