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to ask you about 'Ulysses'?

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willisurvive2under2 · 28/09/2017 21:56

If I say 'Ulysses', does it ring a bell? Have you heard of James Joyce's novel? Did you learn about it at school?

Today the name 'Ulysses' came up in conversation (it was someone's username on eBay!) and DH said it was a girl's name. I said 'surely not' and made reference to Joyce's work. He looked at me like I had two heads. Never heard of it. I didn't think of prodding him about the other Ulysses (the one in Homer's Odyssey).

Is it normal that a 30 something, educated man with 2 degrees (and he went to private school!!) hasn't heard of it? I grew up abroad so I'm clinging to the possibility that it's not taught in this country very unlikely I know.

He's not the bookish/academic type (clearly!), but he's smart in other ways. I consider this to be common knowledge though! What do you think?

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CoolCarrie · 28/09/2017 22:02

Definitely not a girl's name, first thoughts were the same as you; Homer and James Joyce, then that odd couple on This Morning show who let their son wee on the rug, his name was Ulysses or maybe that was his brother. Strange that you dh would think that it was a girls name.

GrannyHeadology · 28/09/2017 22:02

As a 32 comprehensive school attendee with nought but GCSEs I know of Ulysses, but mostly under the name Odysseus. I've never heard of James Joyce though

mirime · 28/09/2017 22:03

I'd agree with you. However, while I didn't go to university I am the bookish type and read a lot.

Thinking about it I don't know about it from school, don't remember Joyce ever being mentioned at all.

SEmyarse · 28/09/2017 22:04

It's an epic 80s cartoon surely!

Hobbes8 · 28/09/2017 22:04

As a 40 year old English graduate, I know Ulysses via the James Joyce novel, and the 80s futuristic cartoon with the awesome theme tune.

sonjadog · 28/09/2017 22:05

I think Ulysses, Homer and James Joyce are common knowledge among the people I know.

Tilapia · 28/09/2017 22:06

I'd think of the Joyce novel. I've tried to read it but I gave up!

ILoveDolly · 28/09/2017 22:06

Ulysses in Space! Was an awesome series. It is most certainly a man's name though.....

Hobbes8 · 28/09/2017 22:06

m.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ4c1X5ene8

Ulyssseeeees! Ulysseeees! Soaring through the galaxieeees.

MaidOfStars · 28/09/2017 22:06
  1. Mythology/Homer. This should be fairly common/basic knowledge, even for someone who didn't go to private school Wink
  2. James Joyce novel. Maybe come across this as an adult who reads. And it's analogised with 1. anyway.
  3. Tales of Brave Ulysses (song by Cream). Only if your Dad is of that era and played records to you. And it's about 1. anyway.
...in that order.

Girl's name??? WTF???

Somerville · 28/09/2017 22:07

Has he no awareness of American history, either? Ulysses S Grant - Civil War General and then 18th President.

RideSallyRide · 28/09/2017 22:07

34, Irish educated and think Homer and James Joyce.

OhtoblazeswithElvira · 28/09/2017 22:07

No. It's not normal! Even allowing for Irish literature being slightly overlooked in the UK, I'd definitely expect anyone who has been through a private school in Britain to at least know about Joyce's Ulysses' existence. Do you and your husband pronounce it differently?

operaha · 28/09/2017 22:07

We have a copy in the living room and had a great drunken evening with friends all taking it in turns to read passages from it.

Don't understand it at all but Ulysses is also a wicked Franz Ferdinand song title!!!

WildIrishRose1 · 28/09/2017 22:08

Hobbes I'd forgotten about the cartoon...loved it! Odysseus is called Ulysses in The Aeneid, and is Odysseus in Homer.

KatherinaMinola · 28/09/2017 22:08

Ah, not the CBeebies programme this time. Yes, I think the book is common knowledge amongst people who are university-educated.

steff13 · 28/09/2017 22:09

I think Ulysses, Homer and James Joyce are common knowledge among the people I know.

Same. However, Ulysses S. Grant was the 18th president of the United States, and from Ohio, like me, and he's on the $50 bill, so that's always my first thought.

IdaDown · 28/09/2017 22:09

The 80s were full of never ending cartoons and tv series.
Cities of Gold
Heidi - the wonderful dubbed version
Muskehounds

OhtoblazeswithElvira · 28/09/2017 22:09

Hahaha I thought the cartoons and the ridiculously catchy tune were a made-up memory of mine!
Grin

AliciaMayEmory · 28/09/2017 22:09

Ulysseeee-eee-eeee-eees, no one else can do the things you do...

littlebillie · 28/09/2017 22:09

I'm always surprised by books people haven't even heard of or read

echt · 28/09/2017 22:11

I'd have thought Joyce's "Ulysses" was common knowledge for an educated person. but then I'm early 60s.

"Ulysses" is aslo a wonderful poem by Tennyson, a poem about middle age.

willisurvive2under2 · 28/09/2017 22:12

@OhtoblazeswithElvira It's very possibly that we pronounce it a bit differently as I'm forrin. But he was reading it out from his eBay app ('a lady called Yuly-something will come to collect') to which I replied 'Yuly-what' and he showed me the username. So that won't be the reason.

I didn't know about the cartoon myself. Or the US president. I read loads so tend to know random facts... but I really thought most people would have heard of the name and its associations.

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willisurvive2under2 · 28/09/2017 22:13

It's very possible, sorry.

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AGnu · 28/09/2017 22:13

I've only heard of Ulysses in the context of Homer's Odyssey. It's not taught in your average comprehensive school these days, or wasn't when I was there 15 years ago. I've only really heard about it through mentions on TV etc. I tried to read it a few years ago but gave up.

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