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Icanhearmynebioursshouting · 27/09/2017 19:52

stupid place to post but i cant get an answer on the internet. when william the conquor won the battle of hastings what happend to all the anglo saxon familes did they just hide out did they get killed by the normans??

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Iruka · 27/09/2017 19:55

Invaders don't usually kill the population they just assimilate them. Roman Britons were mostly the same people who lived here before the Romans just with new leaders and a foreign army. Same thing would have happened with the Normans

LordEmsworth · 27/09/2017 19:56

No, they were conquered. Hence "William the Conqueror" Grin

They carried on living like they had done before, but with new people at the top - French knights rather than English ones. Over time through intermarrying and assimilation, the French invaders became less invasive and less French, until one day they weren't either

Possibly I over simplify it a bit Grin

MattBerrysHair · 27/09/2017 19:58

Nothing happened to them, they just stayed put and got conquered. The Anglo-saxons were serfs in the Norman feudal system.

AliceLutherNeeMorgan · 27/09/2017 19:58

Well - except for when they dared to revel against the invaders i.e. The Harrying of the North. There was a lot of killing, burning, starving etc; the Normans didn't cover themselves with glory

flownthecoopkiwi · 27/09/2017 20:04

It depends. Those lords who fought and lost had their estates confiscated. Others may have kept a low profile and sworn to serve William. But remember kings and lords had to reward their followers with land and wealth and he had to find it from somewhere

Bluntness100 · 27/09/2017 20:07

Gosh lots of different answers here. My understanding was many of the Anglo Saxons initially moved across the country, towards wales, many of those came back and they then signed treaties with the normans.

Icanhearmynebioursshouting · 27/09/2017 20:08

so was it possible for familes to just live on a field with their children and just carry growing their crops and stuff?

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Iruka · 27/09/2017 20:31

The general working population were pretty much considered property of the nobility back then. They wouldn't want to kill them all because then they would have to grow their own food

Iruka · 27/09/2017 20:33

The Anglo Saxon nobility would be different they would have to swear loyalty to the new king or be killed or driven out and as pp said their land would be taken and given to the new kings cronies

KrayKray00 · 27/09/2017 20:34

I need to know if this thread is for a school project or if you're having a moment when I do and think of the most random thoughts ever 😂

Usually in the middle of the night when I'm trying to sleep!

Icanhearmynebioursshouting · 27/09/2017 20:52

im trying to write a book haha just for fun its causing me more stress then i thought it would hopefully you guys will be reading it in the best sellers part in the library one day...asif my spelling is awful haha.

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SleepFreeZone · 27/09/2017 20:54

There was a program covering this that I watched recently on Yesterday I think. I'll see if I can find out what the program was.

SleepFreeZone · 27/09/2017 21:03

Actually it was a BBC documentary with Professor Robert Bartlett

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Normans_(TV_series)

Tainbri · 27/09/2017 21:20

I thought he ordered the doomsday book as in a census of the time in order to tax the hell out of everyone

PeabodyTheGreat · 27/09/2017 21:28

Most of the Anglo Saxon noble families were destroyed I think- whether through battle or losing their lands and sinking into obscurity. Though most of the regular folk just carried on being regular, didn't make much of a difference to their day to day life who ruled over them, barring maybe some different laws and stuff like that. English was spoken amongst regular folk, French was the ruling noble language and they saw themselves as different but as time went on they just all became English. The Welsh were Celts who got driven into Wales by the Anglo Saxons a few hundred years before the Normans.

Icanhearmynebioursshouting · 28/09/2017 10:57

It was 11th century England, Harold Godwinson theAnglo-Saxonking ofEngland had been killed in the battle of Hastings thus the rise ofNormandomination over much of Europe.

Does that sound right??

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PeabodyTheGreat · 29/09/2017 09:24

Hmm the Normans had England and Normandy but it wasn't till a hundred years or so later that thy also got a good deal of the rest of France, mainly through marriage and inheritance. They also didn't control anywhere else in Europe- there were various Norman kingdoms (like Sicily and Cyprus) during the Middle Ages but I don't think they were as early as William the Conqueror and wouldn't have been controlled by the same Normans- eg the King of England wouldn't have had any say over the King of Sicily if you see what I mean.

Icanhearmynebioursshouting · 02/10/2017 20:18

ahh i see so would that opening sentence not make sense.

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Caulkheadupnorf · 02/10/2017 20:23

I’m curious what’s made you write a book an about this OP?

Icanhearmynebioursshouting · 02/10/2017 22:25

i dont even now im making it up as i go along really.

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peachgreen · 02/10/2017 22:51

Historical novelists spend as much time researching their subject as writing the novel - years and years in many cases. Probably a good idea to do that first if you’re really serious about wanting it published one day. Though if it’s just for a bit of fun, go for it!

missymayhemsmum · 02/10/2017 22:58

Different in different parts, I think. A lot of the south east (mostly saxon) capitulated and assimilated quite quickly. London remained the capital. Anglo-saxon still the language of most people, norman french the language of the new nobility. The north (mostly dane/norse) rebelled and thousands were killed, whole communities wiped out. The west (saxon and anglo-celtic) were ruled by a new set of barons but kept their languages and identity underneath. Within a couple of generations a lot of the old nobility were either wiped out or had intermarried with the norman nobles. Government became more centralised and the feudal system ensured that almost everyone was more or less owned by an overlord. Unless you were a monk or a nun, in which case your abbot/abbess was probably the overlord's brother/sister and the same applied.

(might also get around to writing a book if I spent less time on mumsnet, but probably ought to do some housework first)

Whatamesshaslunch · 02/10/2017 22:59

Some of them welcomed him and saw him as having a legitimate claim to the throne.
When William started building castles/employing locals etc, some saw him more favourably. For the peasants, life carried on almost as normal.

His son was less great for the Anglo saxons as he wasn't too keen on England at all and spent most of his time back in Normandy.

There are some good books you can read, really written for kids but good reads nonetheless. Our Island Story, Horrible Histories, Tony Robinson's Kings and Queens...

FizzyGreenWater · 02/10/2017 23:06

I'll buy your book OP, I like the feel of it already. Don't correct the mistakes, it's the best bit #totalnormandominationKing-OfEngkand

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