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To think that detective thrillers on telly are violence porn?

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OhThisbloodyComputer · 27/09/2017 13:00

Gay rights activist Peter Tatchell once observed that some of his haters would go into amazing detail, in their poison pen letters, about an act that they supposedly found abhorrent.

I'm often reminded of that each time there's a new crime drama on TV.

You know the kind of thing. Broadchurch. Vera. Wire in The Blood.

There seems to be a simple formula. There's a murderer loose in coastal Nimbytown and he's killing women and children in the most horrific ways the script-writer can think up. In fact, there might even be two of these scriptical-killers at work, and they're both egging each other to imagine ever more ghastly acts of depravity.

Meanwhile, Detective Sergeant Luvvy Liberal has just 49 minutes (or 45 if it's on ITV) to emote over the case and reflect on the evil of all men.

Aside from the heavy handed symbolism of all these ghastly shows, one thing really troubles me.

What sort of person thinks up ever more dreadful ways of killing women and children, just so they can do some moral posturing about how awful they think it is?

Am I being over sensitive here?

I hate these Murder-tainment shows.

True crime shows are just as bad.

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Saracen · 27/09/2017 14:15

www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-17/why-i-wont-be-watching-game-of-thrones-this-year/8264940 made some interesting points.

All violence makes my stomach turn anyway so I tend not to watch anything more challenging than Poirot. But before reading this article I hadn't really picked up on the differences between the on-screen representations of violence against men and violence against women, and what the consequences of watching these programmes might be.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 27/09/2017 14:21

I agree about the dramas, but I don't think true crime is anywhere near as bad. I watch them, not for the details of the deaths as that doesn't interest me, but for the detective work involved and how the killer was brought to justice. It is fascinating.

They also tend to feature family members of the victims so that viewers feel they get to know the victims a little and they are not just faceless names from a newspaper story. The victims are given a voice in these documentaries whereas the killer is never glamorised - he/she (mostly he of course) just look worthless.

HostaFireAndIce · 27/09/2017 14:21

What was that awful thing with the lass out of the X-files? It was basically rape-porn. I couldn't watch that, even though the writer insisted that it wasn't rape-porn so it can't have been...

caringdenise009 · 27/09/2017 14:31

The Fall? Dreadful,and raved about again. I watched only the first series thinking I was missing the point and it would turn up by the end. It didn't.

HostaFireAndIce · 27/09/2017 14:32

Yes, Denise, that was it. Dreadful indeed.

nutbrownhare15 · 27/09/2017 14:52

I'm on it OP. But I think I'll go home and have a chat to my father first so we can pointedly not talk about some big issues that are affecting our relationship (either my dead mum's affair or his affair before my mum died, can't remember which). Then I'll head to the BBC, at night, and see if I can break into some filing cabinets without the security guard noticing.

LastNightMyWifeHooveredMyHead · 27/09/2017 15:01

Is it better than true crime, which makes entertainment out of a family's misery, or worse, as it's made up? Or just awful in a different way?

The reality is that a lot of tv series are also based on books - and there's a definite "type" of police procedural which favours extreme depictions of violence in its pages. Then there's also the stereotypes amongst detectives, which, were I a detective, would irritate me also...

What you need, OP, is cosy crime - Poirot and possibly Midsummer Murders should get you your detective fix without too much guts and gore! For more old school options, check out Bergerac and Lovejoy...

Lulalu · 27/09/2017 15:10

YANBU OP and I have often thought this. I can't watch any of these series because they are all the same drivel. WHY they need to focus on rape, pornography, child abuse time and time again is beyond me. I am just not interested. Dour-faced detectives and post-mortems - what a load of of bollox. Can't they come up with anything more interesting / intelligent? Why the preoccupation with depravity all the time? I can't engage with any of it whatsoever.

OhThisbloodyComputer · 27/09/2017 20:28

I like your thinking @reetgood

But you're getting too involved.

If I find out you've been doctoring the evidence I'll..... wait a second, let me answer this other comment....

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OhThisbloodyComputer · 27/09/2017 20:31

@Lulalu

It seems the fictional detective genre has got previous for rape, pornography and child abuse.

And that's not all. It's got convictions for dour-faced detectives and depravity.

How is the genre still walking the streets?

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