AIBU to start a campaign to ban wipes?

[annandale]

Wipes are an environmental disaster, a key component of fatbergs and sold as a flushable essential when they should be treated like morphine - controlled except for specific medical needs. Anyone with me?

I was out every day with mine. Managed not to leave a trail of shit-covered one-use cloths behind me. Miraculous, eh?

You do get though that some of us have different circumstances and would not be able to manage with loo rolls and flannels, yes?

No, it's the ease of wipe without the ballache of shitty flannels in your bag.

Except, existentialmoment, Uokbing was suggesting (biodegradable) paper towels and water that could also be thrown away, not a shitty flannel in a bag.

Yes, existentialmoment, I do. I have already said on this thread that there wouldn't be such a problem if people used them only when they really needed to, and not as the first go-to for every little thing, including wiping faces, the kitchen floor, whiteboards, as well as bums when loo roll would do the trick.

Actually what pp said was Why not just buy a roll of Plenty and stick it under the tap? Or is the 'grapefuit extract' that is the important bit?

A role of plenty stuck under the tap would have been no use to me at all.

All the people bitching about those using wipes are invariably doing something, probably many things, we could judge them for too. I wouldn't though, as I don't give a fuck what you do and don't think it's my place to have an opinion on things like your choice in shit cleaning products.

All the people bitching about those using wipes are invariably doing something, probably many things, we could judge them for too.

So because we're not all perfect, we shouldn't all try to make the world a little better, even in small ways?

I have an opinion on lots of things that fuck up the world for my kid and every other kid, all of whom will be trying to clear up our mess - or live with the awful consequences - long after we are gone. Do I do harmful things? Undoubtably. Do I listen when people offer me alternatives to those harmful things? Yes.

No because you're not perfect so you shouldn't judge others just the same as you.

Seriously, existential? How do you expect things to ever change? How do you expect change in the past has ever come about?

I'm too busy trying to change things that actually matter right now, not wanking on about banning wipes which is never going to happen. You are pissing in the wind. Go change something that will actually make a difference to someone.

I'm too busy trying to change things that actually matter right now

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I think that the world's view of wipes will change moment, they are like the plastic bag of today.

In 2014 the amount of wipes found on beaches was up 50% on the previous year - just one year.

Manufacturers will have to make them biodegradable eventually and there will be some sort of price shift to make them less attractive.

Probably. But not today or tomorrow and there are better things to be doing than attacking women for the way they clean up shit. If you really think it matters take your issue to the companies that make them, to the laws that regulate them etc etc. Don't wank on about it here, it doesn't achieve anything.

If you really think it matters take your issue to the companies that make them, to the laws that regulate them etc etc

Why would you imagine we don't already do this? (And the answer is "people want them".) It's possible to talk to more than one stakeholder group at a time, you know.

it doesn't achieve anything

...said by every defeatist in the history of the world.

It's not attacking women for the way the clean stuff, it's (rightly) suggesting using wipes is a huge danger to an already battered planet. This stuff has to GO somewhere, it is our responsibility to call people out for creating waste and then disposing of it unethically.

No said by realists who know that having a pop at people on aibu does not achieve anything. Are you seriously suggesting that typing yabu at people is a force for good in the world?

Petition from the Marine Conservation Society

www.mcsuk.org/forms/wetwipes.php

No one is suggesting that typing yabu is a force for good, but anything that raises awareness of alternatives and/or disposal of whatever they choose to use can't be bad ..... not even this thread.

Petition signed.

Why are you here at all, then, existential?

I'm on a train and bored. Why are you?

Well, strictly speaking because I'm procrastinating on writing a report, but also because someone asked a question and I honestly answered.

And if you don't think one-use waste is a real problem that needs sorting just as much as all the oh-so-important things you spend your life working on, then you are deluded.

I am in bed, recovering from surgery, bored witless 😂 and in too much pain to focus on much for very long.

We can all make a tiny difference.

I think both sides to the wipe debate could have presented their case in a much less argumentive way.

The good thing is though it's made me reconsider how we are using products and I'll be giving using cheeky wipes a go for bums. We have just been using them for hands and face but will split them up.

Ps has any one mentioned family cloth system instead of toilet roll or would that send mumsnet into a meltdown

YABVVVVVVVVVU.

You will not take my wipes away from me either!

Bloody hell, unhappy, Mumsnet goes into meltdown over toilet brushes and people that don't wash their towels daily, I don't think it is ready for the shared family bum cloth!