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To think it would've killed the producers to make one of the principle Octonauts female?

117 replies

lookingforthecorkscrew · 26/09/2017 08:16

There ARE two female Octonauts but they're v much secondary characters, and does make me a bit miffed*. Thought we'd come a bit further than this.

*obvs I don't stay awake all night being angry about this, it just irritates me

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Igottastartthinkingbee · 27/09/2017 11:56

My sons favourite octonauts is Tweak because she builds all the gups.

LuckLuckLUCK · 27/09/2017 12:11

Im not offended, just irritated.

AlpacasPackOwls · 27/09/2017 13:15

Not offended at all. But the only way we can change gender inequality is by starting with children. If children's TV was evenly split (not necessarily every programme, but overall) then it would be a good start to fixing the problem. Children don't know about gender stereotypes until they are taught them.

DuchessofStBridget · 27/09/2017 14:22

Apparently Kwazii was female in the original books (I can only find this mentioned in passing though, as in this article: www.wired.com/2013/02/octonauts/amp/). It's pretty frustrating if they genderflipped her for the show, although I'm not sure why there wasn't more discussion about it at the time if that was the case?

Tilapia · 27/09/2017 14:23

YANBU. I agree OP.

beCreativeInitiate · 27/09/2017 14:28

There's only one lead surely (Cptn. Barnacles). All the others are secondary.

Not everything in life has to be a 50/50 split.

I wonder how many people on Pistonheads are complaining about the lack of men in My Little Pony or Power Puff Girls.

Morphene · 27/09/2017 14:28

For my sins I have recently been watching a lot of nijago in german. It has been pissing me right off that you have to go to 9th or 10th in the billing to get to the one and only female character in the entire universe.

Morphene · 27/09/2017 14:30

fireman sam recently acquired and entirely token female cast member also...

Seriously annoying.

DeleteOrDecay · 27/09/2017 14:39

Not everything in life has to be a 50/50 split.

No one is saying everything has to be 50/50 but when you look at the bigger picture it's overwhelmingly uneven.

beCreativeInitiate · 27/09/2017 14:44

The bigger picture of Octonauts?

Having that woman on Fireman Sam seems about right. I know who I'd want to arrive and carry me out of a burning building.

martellandginger · 27/09/2017 14:44

Chuggington has Koko who is female. There is also sky in paw patrol. Agree about octonauts.

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2017 14:58

"I wonder how many people on Pistonheads are complaining about the lack of men in My Little Pony or Power Puff Girls."

Well, if they we talking about children's television, and if there was a disproportionate number of female characters in leading roles in popular programmers then I hope they would be complaining, yes.

beCreativeInitiate · 27/09/2017 15:03

"Well, if they we talking about children's television"

You're right. There's got to be something missing in your life if you want to discuss the ratio of sex of cartoon characters. They probably aren't.

AssassinatedBeauty · 27/09/2017 15:16

But...you're here discussing it too...what's missing from your life?

I'd want anyone who was a trained firefighter rescuing me from a burning building, wouldn't care about their sex at that point in time.

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2017 15:22

beCreativeInitiate

Out of interest, do you really not care whether your dd sees herself represented fully in the world? Do you think it doesn't matter if she only sees herself in subsidiary roles?

beCreativeInitiate · 27/09/2017 15:31

AssassinatedBeauty

I'm 6'2 and heavier than my frame suggests. For someone to carry me out of a building, complete with their gear, they need to be fairly strong.

Bertrand

I hope she's been brought up better that to care about female representation in cartoons. She isn't being represented. You're questioning the 'fairness' of a talking polar bear, penguin and carrot. The one female is even in a traditionally male role.

Celebrate diversity instead of getting all angsty when a cartoon doesn't have the perfect balance of race, sex, gender, sexuality, diversity etc. Life doesn't and nor should it.

AssassinatedBeauty · 27/09/2017 15:49

Yep, I think that's why the fire service has fitness tests.

"I hope she's been brought up better that to care about female representation in cartoons." This is laughable, to reduce what we're actually taking about to "cartoons".

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 27/09/2017 15:58

Not only is Sky the only main girl and pink, she is actually modelled on those toy dogs that bark and then backflip. Newsflash, producers: dogs don't backflip. So she isn't even a real dog!

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2017 16:00

"Life doesn't and nor should it."

Life shouldn't show fair representation of sex, gender and so on? Good Lord, really? Why not?

DeleteOrDecay · 27/09/2017 16:02

The bigger picture of Octonauts?
Stop being deliberately obtuse🙄

DeleteOrDecay · 27/09/2017 16:04

I'm 6'2 and heavier than my frame suggests. For someone to carry me out of a building, complete with their gear, they need to be fairly strong

I'd imagine a female fire fighter would manage just fine. After all they receive the same training and have to meet the same standards as male fire fighters.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 27/09/2017 16:11

Interestingly DS also thought Peso was female. Presumably because Peso is caring and a bit wimpy.

GerdaLovesLili · 27/09/2017 16:19

DS still loves the Playmobil Super 4 which has Ruby the pirate as one of the main characters (2 male, 2 female), and MLP which is almost all strong female characters.

Octonauts do have Tweak and Dashi (who is Sauci in the books). In the original pre-TV books the female characters do seem to have more presence...so it's a positive decision by the production company to annoyingly side-line them :-(

Cherrypi · 27/09/2017 16:31

This annoys me too. There's always one female character. See also transformers robots in disguise, rescue bots, ninjago, Lego movie, danger mouse, Mock the week

DeleteOrDecay · 27/09/2017 16:38

Ugh don't get me started on token females on game/comedy show panelsAngry

It isn't a coincidence that this happens.