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WIBU to say something about baby crying

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LuckyAmy1986 · 26/09/2017 07:49

NDN have a 13 month old. We have lived next to them since the baby was born, new born phase etc, all fine. The last two weeks the baby has woken me up every night crying, the cot is clearly up against the wall against my bedroom as it is so loud. Babies will be babies I know, it really is loud and for about an hour normally so it takes a while to get back off so I have been a bit tired lately. However last night it was just relentless, I was awake from 1am until 5am and the baby was crying the whole time. I couldn't hear anyone comforting the baby (same as normal, never hear mum or dad), I think she is being left to cry it out. DH went to sleep downstairs in the end because it was just so loud and my DD said she had a bad nights sleep. Around 5am it came to a head and I heard the mum shouting at the baby 'Go to sleep, just go to sleep' I think she left the room, then more crying then mum came back in shouting 'what is it? what do you want?' then her and her husband had an argument about being exhausted and there was some banging etc. Our walls are thin by the way. We have tried ear plugs. I get that babies cry, I have had two myself. I just can't take not getting any sleep, I was wondering about asking them to move the baby away from our wall a bit, but if someone had asked me to do that during a sleepless phase I probably wouldn't have taken that too well. On top of that I am not comfortable with the baby being left to cry for so long. Should I just leave it? DH wants to say something but I just don't want to make them feel any worse when they are struggling. The other side of me thinks it's not ok leaving your baby crying for so many hours. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, haven't had much sleep lately!

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AdalindSchade · 26/09/2017 08:08

But 13 month old babies don't usually cry for hours all night for no reason. It's too old for colic or for random fussiness that newborns get. They usually have a feed or two but wouldn't cry for hours unless they were ill (a possibility) or being ignored. Maybe the parents are trying to sleep train but it's not working. They need to do something different even if it means getting up with the baby and cuddling her for an hour - leaving to cry for hours is not ok.
Not sure how you can tell them that though

Pengggwn · 26/09/2017 08:09

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LuckyAmy1986 · 26/09/2017 08:09

My kids are 3 and 4 not 2 and 3!!!

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LuckyAmy1986 · 26/09/2017 08:10

Not that that matters lol, just correcting myself

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MaryPoppinsPenguins · 26/09/2017 08:12

My DD used to cry like this... for the first 17 months of her life, and nothing could console her. I was broken and if a neighbour (even though you do sound very kind!) had knocked about not sleeping I think it would have pushed me over the edge...

Fekko · 26/09/2017 08:14

Do you have the kind of relationship shop when you can offer her a cup of coffee and a chat? Ask if she ok? It's awful when they don't sleep and when you are sleep deprived it's just terrible. As you have kids then maybe some gentle advice or tips?

The child is probably teething or poorly, I'd guess.

AuntLydia · 26/09/2017 08:18

Oh adiland, I gave a bitter laugh at that! Mine certainly did - they can still teeth at that age never mind anything else. Bless you op, you've only just gone past the sleep deprived stage yourself! Fingers crossed she starts sleeping soon for everyone's sake.

fruitlovingmonkey · 26/09/2017 08:21

I would say something. Perhaps some helpful person has given them bad advice e.g. never pick the baby up when it cries. They need to know that leaving the baby there crying for hours isn't normal or healthy, regardless of stroking or shushing.

Liiinoo · 26/09/2017 08:25

I WBU to say something. However bad it is for you (and it sounds awful), it is worse for them. How about trying some white noise? We have a weekend flat in a very noisy holiday town and the noise of clubs/revelling /fighting sometimes goes on until dawn. We have discovered that keeping a fan running in the bedroom gives enough unobtrusive low level noise to drown out the bacchanalia on the streets

user1499786242 · 26/09/2017 08:29

We've been in the same situation
It's been going on for so long that we've decided to move
The straw that broke the camels back is when she told us she was having another baby...

Getting a detached house thankgod

No advice because there's nothing you can do, a baby is a baby at the end of the day
They will use every excuse 'teething' 'phase''growth spurt' blah but the reality is... that kid isn't going to suddenly stop crying
We tried the very polite comments etc it then turned into them writing us very aggressive letters
Fair enough, they let their kid cry it out, we don't
Each to their own
But my advice would be to Move! Or buy some very expensive ear plugs...

ems137 · 26/09/2017 08:45

I've got 4 kids (2 very young) and I would 100% want to know if one of them was disturbing the neighbour. I've had a shit sleeper who didn't sleep until 14 months so it's not like I've had perfect kids either. I would do everything I could to minimise the disturbance to everyone else before myself to be honest.

If you came round to my house in this situation I wouldn't snap/lose my shit like other PPs have said. I would be so apologetic and be glad of a conversation about it.

ravenmum · 26/09/2017 08:48

I remember my first-born crying loudly as I held her to my breast trying to get her to feed. Can still see her little red angry face as she lay in my arms. She'd had her tongue tie fixed but wasn't a good breastfeeder, and as a first-time mother I didn't trust my own judgement and felt under pressure not to use a bottle. You wouldn't have heard anything but her crying on and on. Thank goodness my neighbours back then were elderly and a bit deaf, and did not send me any letters, criticise me for leaving her to "cry it out" as I held her helplessly in my arms or think I needed "excuses" for my child going through the standard stages of life.

ems137 · 26/09/2017 08:48

Oh and just to add, if I thought one of my kids was disturbing the neighbour and I really had tried everything (not just let them cry it out!) I would go round to the neighbours and apologise. I think it's quite rude to continue disturbing people without at least an apology and assuring them you really are trying to minimise the noise.

mrsquagmire · 26/09/2017 08:52

Agree with Lilinoo about white noise - worked on my granddaughter when she was fretful, blocks out noise for you too (worked for me with loud music NDN) - Youtube, CDs (see Amazon), vacuum cleaner, fan. If you speak to NDN, suggest it? See if it works for your DD too? There are some good ones on Youtube e.g.

jaseyraex · 26/09/2017 09:01

I certainly wouldn't take kindly to someone coming round and asking me to move the cot tbh, and I wouldn't expect an apology from the mum either. Kids cry. As a neighbour you just need to deal with it. Sometimes you really just can't help a child "disturbing" people. It's not the mums fault and she'll be just as sleep deprived as anyone else the baby is keeping awake. Maybe go round for a cuppa if you have time one day, have a chat and share your experiences with her so she knows she's not alone and then you can try and give her some helpful tips.

When I had my youngest, my neighbour came round at midnight one night and asked me "can you not just give the baby dummy and shut it up?" he was a charmer! Also the same man that told me he wouldn't turn his music down at 11pm because it wasn't late. I took great pleasure in telling him to fuck off! On contrast my neighbour on the other side who I didn't know very well came round with a teddy for the baby and asked if I fancied a cuppa. I completely offloaded on her and it was such a nice gesture even though I didn't know her well at the time.

Ellendegeneres · 26/09/2017 09:09

My 14month old is just past this stage. The evenings were bad up until recently too. Koala baby wanting to be held during sleep, waking time, all times. I feel so bad for my neighbours. I'd get to where they are too, begging for sleep. This morning I called to my older dc to 'give the baby a dummy or something, for the love of god!' In my defence, dc1 woke baby up. You wake him, you entertain him. I'm getting out of bed before 6 for no one unless someone is sick

Robinkitty · 26/09/2017 09:18

Could you play something on your phone through head phones? Delta waves on full volume always sends me to sleep when dh is doing his snoring.

GenevaJoey · 26/09/2017 09:36

I'm trying to sleep train/ night wean my 16 month old at the moment. It involves resolutely not feeding her, which makes her very very angry. She cries and writhes and is very very loud. I am there sitting in a chair with her on my lap, it can take a long time.until she eventually falls asleep on me and then I have to sit there for well over half an hour before I try to transfer her. It is exhausting, soul destroying, upsetting for all involved and I'm certainly not ignoring her. Having said that, if I thought leaving her to it would work, I wouldn't rule it out, she's not a tiny baby anymore and we are all desperate. I don't think it will work and i.am making some progress...
I have a lot of sympathy for you and your family. I have more for you NDN though...!
Luckily we are as detached house so.i really hope we are no disturbing anyone too.much. I have tried various things over the last year to get her to sleep and some.of them.have involved crying. I don't know any other way
She's strong willed and vocal.

Allthewaves · 26/09/2017 09:39

Wax earplugs can be more sound proof. White noise in bedroom too can help block out the noise.

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