To feel really scared/sorry for 21yr old Syrian "bomber"

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From what you can work out in the media the elder one of the 2 boys being fostered probably had nothing to do with the bombing other than being fostered by the couple who had taken in the one who probably did do it

The media has reported the 18 year old as being described as a nightmare

And the older one as very polite and lovely ( I know that doesn't make him innocent but he's been released without being charged too)

And yet he's the one with his photos splashed all over the media not the 18 year old...

I feel like he's going to have no life now and always be thought of being involved and a terrorist... when it looks like he is just unfortunate to live there

The couple hasn't reported the 18 year old themselves other than saying they couldn't handle him and looking to terminate the placement so it's not fair either to say he must have known and should have reported as it seems as though none of them knew a terror incident was being plotted under their roof...

No responses?

I prefer to feel sorry for those injured in the attack. From what I have read in the press, the 18 year old has been charged and the 21 year old released by police and I really doubt his name will be remembered by anyone for long enough to ruin his life.

I'm not a big fan of virtue signalling.

^ what silver said.

What's your point exactly?

It is possible to feel sorry for more than one group of people at a time, you know.

I haven't been following the story, but if he is innocent and his name has been released (online articles etc) that could have huge repercussions for him when looking for jobs etc.

The 18yo was once an innocent little baby, too. How did he change, What went wrong there? Lots of people to feel sad about.

ps: yes I want the culprit punished, but still can be sad that something made someone so innocent into a bad person.

No 21 yr old has been released without charge

After being held for questioning

As I'm sure the foster couple were questioned too... however the media hasn't painted them as bombers when plastering their photo everywhere or called them suspects.

The 21 year old will be remembered... his photos are over the media.
While the 18 year olds have not been

"People" will just say they were right about refugees.

I'm with Silverysurfer. Not much else to say.

Yes, the 21 year old will probably be recognised for now, but that will subside.

It was all presumably central to the investigation. There was little choice really.

Nobody will remember some photo!

Have a word with yourself.... signal birthing as said up thread ...grim!

*virtuing even!

I think it's a bit naive of PP to say he will get forgotten eventually. Many, many employers do Google searches these days before offering a job. This is exactly the type of thing that would put them off despite his innocence. Guilty by association. And completely unfair.

Why would he be guilty by association?
He isn't being charged

OK I agree with you. The "virtue signalling" comments are uncalled for. Some people lack the imagination to realise that just because they don't care about something doesn't mean that nobody does.

I feel very sorry for the 21 y/o, and the foster parents, and indeed the 18y/o. He has seen horrors the like of which we can barely imagine, and that has had a catastrophic effect on him.

But on Mumsnet it's generally considered Not The Done Thing to care about refugees and victims of war.

You feel sorry for that scumbag who tried to kill as many innocent people as he could? Fucking hell!

Running have you read the OP? Where has anyone said they feel sorry for anyone who has evidenced involvement?

Oops Running turns out I'm the one who missed a PP - my apologies!!

Yes I feel sorry for him too.

I feel sorry for the 21 year old that his face has been splashed across the media and there seems to be some sort of attempt to suppress pictures of the '18 year old' who has been charged. Only a court drawing available. Probably because he's not actually 18.

But I think even Faroukh's story raises some questions about refugee status. He is apparently from an area of Syria largely unaffected by the war. His father was Egyptian and they had gone to Egypt where his family are still living perfectly peaceably and where he has many links. But he decided to carry on to the UK presumably for economic reasons.

And yes of course about the 18 year old and the other men still under arrest there are questions about the wisdom of letting in thousands of unvetted men of fighting age which were airily dismissed but seem to have had some merit now.

I think our asylum system is broken when it is just helping the sharpest elbowed, richest, fittest and best connected. IMO we need to start processing claims in safe neighbouring countries to the conflicts and offering asylum to the most vulnerable and in need.

And I think most of those would be women and children who are currently being chucked to the wolves but would pose little danger to the UK.

‘Airily dismissed’.... yes, but I only saw that right here on mumsnet!

For those of you who feel sorry for the 18 year old who planted a bomb on the Tube, I assume you are trolls. If you are serious, then you are the kind of people who are responsible for the UK being seen as a soft target. If you feel sorry for the terrorists then you are deranged.

Mother of refugee detained then freed after Parsons Green attack 'had heart attack over arrest

Colleagues demand apology as mother ‘in critical condition’ and workplace receiving abuse

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/yahyah-farroukh-parsons-green-london-tube-attack-freed-innocent-mother-heart-attack-released-without-a7962246.html

Yes, I feel sorry for him.

And ashamed of what this country has become.

Ah well, it’s in Egypt.....they probably aren’t telling the truth