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To continue giving silent treatment to MIL

40 replies

taratill · 21/09/2017 15:03

I'm not talking to my mother in law, I will respond to direct questions but I am not starting conversations or phoning or emailing (which I used to do).

My MIL has a history of mental health problems. She has never disclosed to family but I think she could be bi- polar. I know that she has for periods taken medication and for periods she does not.

When she takes medication she can be lovely but sometimes she has periods where she can be crazy and hurtful to family members (I expect that these are periods where she refrains from taking the meds but I'm not 100% sure).

We had an argument about 12 years ago, there was a huge family row and she was very rude to a close family member who she had invited for Christmas lunch (and with whom she has had a one-sided feud over decades). My DH was very upset about this, he has health problems that are aggravated by stress and I phoned my MIL to say that I thought she should consider other people when she goes on a tirade and I specifically referred to my DHs health. My MIL does not like to discuss health problems (these should be kept private). I went on to say I was worried about her mental health and suggested she seek some kind of counselling. The following week I received a letter which said my conversation was akin to someone blowing up the Grand Hotel in Brighton during the Brighton bombing and was otherwise very woe is me. Since the letter I have kept quiet about anything that is not my business.

Roll on 12 years. My DH and I now have 2 kids the of whom has been this year diagnosed with ASD and had a period of serious anxiety where he tried to self harm and could not attend school. MIL turned up at house to try to help, she does not think that the ASD is true and blames it on our hectic lifestyles, needless to say she was unable to help but she was obviously well meaning in her visit. My DH has also had a further episode of ill health and had a hospital stay (again for a condition which can be exacerbated by stress) .

In the meantime the family member with whom the feud was with has died. My FIL came up to have lunch with my DH and presented him with another poison pen letter from MIL stating all of the things he has done wrong in his life and saying how it was terrible that DH did not stick up for MIL in the feud and how she did not feel love for him and only kept in contact with him to see her grandkids.

DH was devastated. This came within weeks of his own ill health and DS's diagnosis.

AIBU to think that this is completely selfish regardless of whether MIL may or may not be having a period of ill (mental) health problems herself? My own mother thinks I should build bridges as MIL is not getting any younger. I just think she is toxic and want to limit her relationship with DC as much as possible.

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Standingcat · 21/09/2017 16:44

Sleepover of a 5 year old at her house? Why? Given how you feel about her and her issues?

BertrandRussell · 21/09/2017 16:49

"She is obviously very troubled but I find it hard to sympathise with parents who so ruthlessly transfer their own mental health problems onto their own children (even adult ones)."

If she has bi polar, she is not doing this on purpose.

nannybeach · 21/09/2017 17:02

Bless you taratill, it can be, I dont stop my DK seeing their Granny, they are grown ups, its their choice, 1 DS thinks we should "kiss and make up" aint happening, we are talking 30 years of nastiness here, not just small amount.I wish we had done it sooner, basically DH (yes mental issues, serious, because of her) was scared of her, she ruled the roost, I houghts, its HIS M so I put up with it, then he finally saw the light,everything was written in texts and e-mails, so it was laugable when she tried to deney stuff.

taratill · 21/09/2017 17:06

Standingcat because she's a grandparent and was going through a nice period at the time.

I'm not one to hold grudges normally and I think it's cruel to stop children from seeing their grandparents for no good reason. My kids only have 3 grandparents as it is because my Dad died before they were born.

I would not allow them to stay there right now without me or DH although I know my DM is angling for it.

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mirime · 21/09/2017 17:11

If she has bi polar, she is not doing this on purpose.

She might not be doing it deliberately, but how much damaging behaviour should be put up with? Especially when there are children involved.

I'm sure my grandmother had something wrong with her, but to be honest my sister and I should have been kept away from her, at the latest after she introduced my mother and sister to someone as the cleaner and her daughter.

butterfly56 · 21/09/2017 17:13

No matter what her mental health issues are, if it's having a negative impact on your Dh's health and your family you need to go low contact.

IME giving too much time and space to family or friends who have a negative impact causes a lot of stress that needs to be avoided. A lesson that has been a long time in the learning in my case.

I have a relative with bi polar and everyone has to tread on eggshells around them.

It is emotionally and physically draining even for a healthy person but for someone with serious illness the impact is even greater.

You are doing the right thing in protecting your family and yourself.Flowers

BertrandRussell · 21/09/2017 17:15

"She might not be doing it deliberately, but how much damaging behaviour should be put up with? Especially when there are children involved."

As I said earlier "Can you just quietly stop any involvement with her?"

My post about her not doing it on purpose was in response to the poster who said she had very little sympathy for people who "ruthlessly transfer their mental health problems onto their adult children"

cudeatahorse · 21/09/2017 17:16

I got as far as the Thread Title and couldn't read any further.

I don't agree with giving silent treatment to anybody.
It's mentally abusive.

taratill · 21/09/2017 17:19

mirimie that's the sort of comment my MIL could make.

The reason I'm not sure that it is bipolar 100% is that it seems that the behaviour is only directed towards family members. She is an upstanding member of the community and does lots of charity work and doesn't seem to have a string of failed relationships with friends etc.

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taratill · 21/09/2017 17:21

cudeatahorse I agree with your sentiment but the alternative , in this case, having a discussion about it can be very damaging.

Equally we can't act as though it never happened.

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BoneyBackJefferson · 21/09/2017 17:37

Why does FIL shit stir like this? why is he enabling her behaviour?

Because he is being abused and its his way of stopping being abused?

Danceswithwarthogs · 21/09/2017 17:58

I can't see that you can do anything else than what you're doing... unless things change or she acknowledges her issues/genuinely appologises. Dont be nasty or escalate things with "home truths" but you must protect yourselves and your family from the harm she could do. It's sad for her, but what can you do to improve the situation if none of it is of your making?

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/09/2017 18:04

Do whatever you have to do to protect yourself and your family. My mother treats me like shit most of the time. It's taken me a long time but I now keep her at arms length. She is high on the narcissistic scale and I'm her scapegoat. Any negative feeling she has about herself, she projects onto me. She also makes the right sounds as though she believes I have ME/CFS then when I become ill or unable to do something, she then denies my illness/disability. It's like she reels me in with niceness and then beats me up the second she thinks I am under her control again. Low contact is the only way I can deal with it. Now that I'm finally sticking up for myself, my 9 yo dd is starting to give herself permission to see grandmas flaws as well.

WhereYouLeftIt · 21/09/2017 18:26

"she did not feel love for [OP's DH] and only kept in contact with him to see her grandkids."
Well. That for me would be the end of the matter. I'd be sending her card back to her unopened and screening my calls, not accepting any from her. As for FIL, I'd be clear with him that while he was still welcome, any flying monkey business on her behalf and the welcome would be withdrawn.

I simply would not want her dripping poison into my children's ears.

Oh, and I would be firmly telling my mother to butt out.

Maelstrop · 21/09/2017 18:43

Whereyouleftit has the right of it. The way she's written to your DH means I'd be waving a not very fond farewell. No way would I want my dc anywhere near her toxic presence. Why is your mother getting involved? How is this anything to do with her?

I don't think you've been mean as a pp said. You have to carry out damage limitation for your dc's sake.

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