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To ask why there aren't any threads about Catalonia?

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Ginmakesitallok · 20/09/2017 17:31

Spain has gone back to being a dictatorship -
Forgive the fb cut and paste

Thought I would share this illegal poster now that Spain has officially become Europe's newest Dictatorship. The Generalitat, Catalonia's government has been de facto suspended, its finances seized. The guardia civil (Spain's militarized police force) have raided 4 government departments and arrested officials involved in the organisation of Catalonia's self-determination referendum. Political parties, newspapers, printers and other media raided. Political meetings prohibited and broken up. Media censorship, web pages closed down. Private correspondence violated. Interrogations, people forced to identify themselves before the forces of law and order. More than 700 democratically elected mayors orded to declare before the judge. I could go on and on... Dear friends and family, tell YOUR friends and family, tell everyone: Spain is a dictatorship. Tell them democracy and civil rights have been suspended. Tell everyone at every opportunity! Breakfast with family, Sunday lunch, having a drink with friends, watching the match, in the queue at the supermarket. Tell them all!

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TathitiPete · 20/09/2017 19:24

I will, op, faré.

Ginmakesitallok · 20/09/2017 19:29

Moltes gràcies

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SoPassRemarkable · 20/09/2017 19:32

I had no idea. Barcelona is in Catalonia isn't it? When I visited I couldn't get my head round my phrase book had everything in English/Spanish/Catalan and I had no idea whether to use Catalan or Spanish in restaurants!

What's happened with the basque separatist movement.....they've gone quiet recently!

SoPassRemarkable · 20/09/2017 19:36

So just been reading The Independent and it says the Spanish government have said that the referendum is illegal. I can understand if the Spanish government haven't agreed to it then they won't want it going ahead. Raiding buildings, etc sounds a bit OTT though as the referendum won't have any power, apart from to show strength of feeling which to be honest a FB poll could do.

Nicola Sturgeon couldn't call another referendum....she has to go the UK govt to agree to it.

RandomMess · 20/09/2017 19:38
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TathitiPete · 20/09/2017 19:59

Yeah, there's Barcelona city and Barcelona region. Catalonia has its own language - Catalan, as for whether to speak Catalan in restaurants then yeah, definitely if you have enough Catalan. Otherwise Spanish is fine. I wouldn't expect anyone not from Catalunya to have much Catalan so I'd be impressed!

Franco demanded an end to Catalonia (and all the autonomies) and outlawed the Catalan language. Catalan newspapers were not allowed, masses said in Catalan banned. Sounds like that's coming around again now.

ETA? Dèu meu, we don't really want another ETA!

SoPassRemarkable · 20/09/2017 20:03

I spoke Catalan as the words looked easier to pronounce! Though the first lunch I got something totally different to what I thought I'd ordered! Grin

TathitiPete · 20/09/2017 20:29
Grin

That reminds me of something I read a few years ago on a different site: In Italy they take their coffee very milky. My mum was in Rome and ordered a latte and it was pretty much just milk!

Cue a couple of people explaining that if you ask for 'un latte' in Italy you are literally asking for 'a milk'.

Also, DH and I on holiday in Portugal, everywhere we went to eat we were asked "English?" He got the hump and told people "No, actually, I'm Irish". After two or three times I told him that they don't care where he's from, they just want to know in which language we wanted the menu Grin

SoPassRemarkable · 20/09/2017 22:58

Years ago a friend of mine climbed The Matterhorn. Got to the top and another group of climbers asked him to take a photo. He got ready with their camera, they lined up and then unfurled an ETA banner.

He said he wanted to say he'd changed his mind as he didn't associate with terrorists but was too scared.

ILoveMillhousesDad · 20/09/2017 23:15

Sorry. Misread the title and just came on to say something in support of Cerys Matthews Blush

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