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To not be able to stop wondering about this unidentified woman?

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SirWibbles209 · 16/09/2017 12:47

I remember coming across this case back in 2010, a woman's body discovered in Manchester. She remains unidentified and they theorize she was murdered many years before possible 1970-1980. They called her the angel of the meadows.

I guess my aibu is how can she still be unidentified? How has nobody reported her missing? I think what gets me the most is that the area she discovered is a pretty busy one and she lay undiscovered for all those years in central Manchester!

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/angel-meadow-murder-mystery-victim-8846364.amp

What are your thoughts?

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EamonnWright · 16/09/2017 12:51

Possibly a Ripper victim?

QueenMortificado · 16/09/2017 12:52

Unexplained cases like this really get me

I also really want to know what happened to people who disappeared. Claudia Laurence for example - I really wonder what ever happened to her

MarthaArthur · 16/09/2017 12:54

The missing persons website UK is actually very harrowing. Full of missing people either found dead years ago and unclaimed. Is sad these cases wont be reopened. Aside from family dramas/kicking thsm out never to be seen again why is their no family or friends? The case that always upsets me is a woman i forget her name. She was found dead in her flat. She had been dead in the chair for 8 years in the middle of wrapping christmas presents. 8 years no one had reported her missing or gone looking for her.

MarthaArthur · 16/09/2017 12:56

So sorry i am mistaking 2 cases. I was talking about Joyce Carol Vincent who was found dead after 3 years not 8.

Runningpear · 16/09/2017 12:56

Gosh didn't know that, how sad. I've worked in that building Sad.

Pennina · 16/09/2017 12:57

Martha - Joyce Vincent. There's an excellent documentary about her called "Dreams of A Life". Very moving. Worth a watch. On Netflix I think.

crunchtime · 16/09/2017 12:58

god that is so sad

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SirWibbles209 · 16/09/2017 12:59

Joyce carol vincent makes me cry Sad I watched the documentary on her some of her 'friends' were awful on it though! And to PP never thought about that before, good shout though! I think it's just so weird she was undiscovered for so long in a busy area! Does anybody remember what that bit of Manchester was like In the 1970/80s ?

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MarthaArthur · 16/09/2017 13:00

Pennina thanks thats the one i watched! Really upset me at the time. Was so harrowing. She had been out of contact with her family after her moms death i think? When they found her body she had been wrapping presents presumably in the hope of rekindling her relationship with her siblings.

KeyChange · 16/09/2017 13:00

Surely a matter of time before they find family through dna.

Very sad isn't it.

OhtoblazeswithElvira · 16/09/2017 13:00

OP I often think some of them are victims of human trafficking - young girls, sometimes orphaned in their country of origin, with absolutely nobody in the world to care about them, brought here with the promise of a better life and forced into prostitution Sad

That probably doesn't apply to the case you mention though. Is there no DNA match to her remains at all however distant?

brasty · 16/09/2017 13:01

That is so sad.
I always remember reading on MN about a woman, still unidentified, who had jumped from Beach Head.

brasty · 16/09/2017 13:01

Beachy Head

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SirWibbles209 · 16/09/2017 13:02

I'm meant to PP who mentioned she could be a ripper victim, I did hear they thought he was responsible for a lot more attacks, plus he used to travel up and down the county.

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SirWibbles209 · 16/09/2017 13:03

brasty I remember that case! So sad, it really makes you think it must be so much easier to become isolated than you think!

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Runningpear · 16/09/2017 13:04

Re the question about what that area of Manchester was like in 1970's. The original CIS tower is just across the road, which is an iconic 1960's landmark in Manchester, very busy & a big employer. The coop always owned the land the new building is on, and whilst it is city centre, it is right on the outskirts. Not sure if it was derelict though or built in previously though.

CigarsofthePharoahs · 16/09/2017 13:07

There's a film about Joyce - Dreams of a Life. I found it a difficult thing to watch, but it's very well made.
The case I sometimes still think of is the remains of a young boy they found in the River Thames. Utterly harrowing. Nobody knows who the poor boy is or what happened - though there are some horrible theories.
It plays on my mind that there could be a family out there, forever wondering what happened to their child.

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SirWibbles209 · 16/09/2017 13:07

Thanks runningpear, I've been to Manchester a lot but never worked/lived there. I think I remember reading it was wasteland, but just makes you wonder that there was a busy employer just across the road! I wonder if it's related to an employee Confused Sad

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SirWibbles209 · 16/09/2017 13:09

To be honest unidentified people are something I spend a lot of time reading about. Each case just gets me thinking someone somewhere must know something ! Even after all these years, I still hope they will be identified. Most people I talk to IRL look at me like this Hmm

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fudgesmummy · 16/09/2017 13:09

My 19 year old cousin disappeared in 1980, and was never seen or heard of again. My aunt and uncle never stopped looking for him, or to find out what had happened to him. He was their only child and sadly they are both died not knowing Sad

MarthaArthur · 16/09/2017 13:13

The current Corrie McKeague missing case makes me very sad. I have been to Honnington and BSE and cant comprehend how he vanished from an area covered by CCTV. Particularly as the police ballsed up the investigation and are sticking to it. They spent 8 months telling his mom he is not in the landfill and they wont search. Now they say he 100% is in the landfill and spent 10weeks searching to find nothing. Now they say he is 100% there but in the wromg bit but have told his mom they wont be searching any more!

Runningpear · 16/09/2017 13:20

If you take the tram from Victoria to north Manchester you go right past it, it does quickly go to wasteland but at the point where the building is, its city centre now. Maybe it was wasteland in 1970, but would have been they hey-day of the CIS building at that time too.

HakunaStigmata · 16/09/2017 13:24

That's so sad, fudgesmummy.

Andrew Gosden too of course - took a train to London aged 14 and hasn't been seen in the ten years since.

ASongOfRiceAndPeas · 16/09/2017 13:27

Oh my word, I completely forgot about the torso of the young Nigerian boy found in the Thames ('Adam'). Sickening. I remember feeling very uneasy about that as I was very young at the time and had just started watching the news independently- because of 9/11 I think?
How could people do this to a child?!

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