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Right to die campaigners release harrowing video *WARNING GRAPIC VIDEO IN LINK**

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Soubriquet · 14/09/2017 14:43

Right to die campaigners have released a video that is deemed too disturbing to show on YouTube

It shows a true story portrayed by actors, of the suffering a man, Greg Sims, dying of brain cancer.

Aibu to think that everyone should have the right to die with dignity?

VERY DISTRESSING VIDEO IN LINK. PLEASE DONT WATCH IF SENSITIVE
link to video

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NotAgainYoda · 14/09/2017 16:45

Same question as Herechickychicky

Both people I've know to die from cancer died in a hospice and were sedated

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 14/09/2017 16:50

agree my close cancer deaths were not like this

I am NOT disputing that this shit happens, but there exist drugs and nurses that sedate people and that's why those lovely MacMillan people get bought in

I just don't want people who have not seen a cancer death to gets scared and think "this is what its always like"

its not, it doesn't have to be this way

shouldnthavesaid · 14/09/2017 16:54

I used to work with adults over 17 with brain cancer / brain injuries - everyone I looked after who was known to be in the end stages of life was given a pump with infusions of midazolam, morphine, hyoscine (to dry up secretions) . Specialist nurses used to come by and check. We always put people in a single room and you'd aim to try and get them where they or their family wanted them to be.

I did see some very slow and upsetting deaths and if I think about a couple I still cry, two or three patients' situations gave me nightmares for weeks afterwards. I think there's still so so much that could and should be done differently, even in places where patients are sedated and hopefully not aware of what's happening, for their relatives' sake more than anything.

Plump82 · 14/09/2017 16:57

I watched my dad die of cancer and it was horrific. While he was sedated in his last few days and he did pass away peacefully, he still had to endure the daily agony for a year after diagnosis. He had no hope of recovering and after seeing what he went through i absolutely agree with euthanasia. Not to spare the pain of your last few days but so that you can make the choice when to go.

papayasareyum · 14/09/2017 16:58

I've always been on the fence about assisted dying. For the past couple of weeks, I've watched a close relative of mine decide she didn't want any further treatment and then take a whole fucking WEEK to die after food and water were removed (at her request when she was lucid enough to ask)
I am now pro euthanasier.
Why the hell should she have had to lie in that bed whilst we used a sponge to moisten her mouth and watch her wither away over several long days? It's fucking undignified

ALemonyPea · 14/09/2017 17:01

I am pro euthanasia.

I watched both my in laws die from cancer. My FIL within weeks of diagnosis, my MIL within 9 months. Absolutely heart wrenching to live through and not be able to do anything to ease their suffering.

You'd put an animal down if they were suffering, I can't see why, with the correct guidelines, humans can't gave the same dignity.

madamy · 14/09/2017 17:07

I think this is a really irresponsible film. I'm a cancer nurse and have seen and cared for many people with cancer at the end of their life. Everyone should have the right to die with dignity. For someone to be in this much discomfort and distress is unacceptable, and I truly believe that deaths like this are few and far between.
Sedation is not always necessary or even needed if other symptoms are managed correctly. There are numerous drugs and combinations that can be used to relieve end of life symptoms and ensure a peaceful and dignified death.
However, I am not naïve - there are sadly situations when best end of life care is not practised, and that's where campaigns should be focused.
To imply that the only way to ensure a dignified death is through assisted suicide/euthanasia is wrong.
I truly hope that anyone here facing this doesn't think that all end of life experiences are like this.

MrLovebucket · 14/09/2017 17:25

I have been present at a euthanasia in Belgium. They brought her to sleep first. We spent some time with her. The docter later came in to give her the injection

That really surprised me as I'm pretty sure in the Swiss clinics the patient has to administer the fatal dose (as per Simon Binner). I'm glad that there are other options in different countries.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b070jm26

SistersOfPercy · 14/09/2017 17:26

I cared for my Dad at home to the end, it's what he wanted. I'd like to say he was sedated, he wasn't.
He had lung cancer. He was in pain. Getting people to come and administer drugs was a battle. He finally slipped into unconsciousness half an hour before he died in my arms. My FIL had hospice care, again not sedated 24/7 he felt pain and was also conscious until almost the end.

Cancer is a cruel, horrific disease and people should be entitled to a death of their choosing.

Aeroflotgirl · 14/09/2017 17:27

Why give drugs to prolong the suffering,surely if the person wants it, they should be able to go before it gets so bad. As I said, its deemed cruel to put an animal through this, so they are PTS to end their suffering, why is a human life any different.

Aeroflotgirl · 14/09/2017 17:30

As you said madmy, good end of life care is not always practised, the wrong treatment is given, so people do suffer in pain, that is what people are scared of. My friends dad recently died, he had terminal brain cancer, but died in pain suffering, of misdiagnosed sepsis. Morphine was given too late in his care, so all the while he was in pain, choking on his own saliva, as his swallow reflex went, about 5 days before he died.

Herechickychicky · 14/09/2017 21:59

Shouldn't, Madamy- thank you both very much for sharing your professional experience. I really hoped you would say that.

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