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To let my cat have kittens

280 replies

Mittens1969 · 12/09/2017 22:35

This is a more lighthearted thread than my two previous ones, but I'm fully expecting to be flamed by some posters on here, especially those who work in cat rescue centres.

I've had cats all through my life, I have 4 furry friends atm. I've finally given into temptation to let one of my cats, a 1 year old black and white female, to have one litter of kittens before having her spayed.

We used to let our cats have a couple of litters of kittens when I was growing up, and we never had any problems finding homes for them. I've never done this with cats since I've grown up, I've had a number of cats and I've always had them spayed/neutered.

But this time I couldn't resist. And I already know it won't be hard to find homes for the kittens and I intend to look after them for as long as necessary. I'll have 2 DDs who want to keep them of course.

So that's my AIBU basically. I would also be interested in suggestions from people who have done this.

OP posts:
kali110 · 13/09/2017 17:28

tumble unfortunately some of those people then end up dumping the cute and cuddly kitten when a few months down the line they are naughty.
I dont know what the answer is.

Welldone op Smile

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 13/09/2017 17:29

OP kudos to you. It takes a lot to take on advice (and not get riled about the "robust" debate) You are doing the right thing.

user1468353179 · 13/09/2017 17:36

I got my cats from a local rescue. They had been rescued from a life of squalor and both of then were nursing litters. They came from a filthy home with over 20 cats, plus kittens. They got spayed and we've had them for three years now. There's enough irresponsible owners out there, don't add to them!!

RockinSushi · 13/09/2017 17:41

"Fun for the DDs"

Yes especially if there are complications and both mum and kittens die! Defo a learning experience anyway! 🙄🙄🙄

5rivers7hills · 13/09/2017 17:44

@Mittens1969 great update! Hope you are successful in fostering. :-)

Auntiedahlia · 13/09/2017 17:46

Well done OP. Good decision.

kikisparks · 13/09/2017 17:51

Also to the poster upthread who said there are not many kittens for adoption in Glasgow rescue centres- that has not been my experience at all. SSPCA, cats protection, catflap, cat concern, Argyll animal aid, cat action trust and other small rescues all seem to regularly have kittens. I got this information between going in (when myself or family members have adopted cats) and looking online (I'm always close to adopting another cat but hold back in case resident cat doesn't like it). There may be more only available by phoning up and asking.

That said I like adopting adult cats myself, picked our lovely, highly affectionate then 4 year old over the option of 2 equally cute 3 month olds who I hope got snapped up soon after. Older cats are wonderful too, I would challenge anyone to go to a rescue centre and come out without reserving a cat!

maxthemartian · 13/09/2017 17:55

OP really well done for talking the advice on board like you have especially as it's a topic that generates strong opinions.

A pp a couple of pages back mentioned letting her cat have kittens as it was cruel to deny her what she would be doing naturally.
I should point out that cat's natural lives are short, brutal and miserable. There's nothing about them that any loving and responsible pet owner would wish to recreate.
Your cat also has zero ability to conceptualise motherhood, having a litter would simply be an unnecessary risk to her and that's as well as the fact that the rescues are full of unwanted cats.

Nanny0gg · 13/09/2017 17:58

Well done OP for following the advice.

But what the buggery were all those other posts comparing a cat experiencing 'motherhood' to people not being fit to have children but they do anyway because it would be wrong to stop them too?

Am I in a parallel universe?

lalalalyra · 13/09/2017 18:08

I'm very glad you've chosen to go down that path OP. It takes a lot to take the stick you got and change your mind.

My cat had kittens in June. She was neutered, well she wasn't, but she should have been (the vets fucked up). She had 5 kittens. She and 4 of the kittens died within a week of the birth. We now have one, admittedly cute, kitten who is a LOT of work. My children are absolutely devastated about the loss of our girl and the kittens. The death of the cat wasn't anything to do with the vet fuck-up, she was just one of the unlucky ones. In our circumstances the vets covered all of the bills (and food), but I can't even imagine what it would have cost us had it been ours to cover. Many many hundreds probably.

Abbylee · 13/09/2017 18:14

Good for you! I'm happy that you have given your family and cat a more fulfilled life.

I know that there is an over abundance of cats in the world but a litter of kittens is a WONDERFUL experience for your family and your mother-cat.

There is a difference in animals who have been mothers. They are usually more settled and nurturing. (Farmer. I know animals) Your children will never forget the time that you spend with them and it is a beautiful learning experience.

Regarding the "already too many" issue, i recently adopted a shelter cat and he is the first one that isn't a disappointing pet. I have done my "duty" adopting 5 or 6 cats and they are usually a bit mental. We have a 15 yo cat that we raised from a few weeks old. He is still a pain to pet, spits and drools and tries to crawl up my face. Wont stay in the house and kills rodents and birds with relentless tenacity. I picked up a dead baby bird this morning at the bottom of the stairs. Neighbors hate him, he isn't kind to the other cats or dogs. But he is better than the two who refused to come out from under the bed. I hear adopted dogs are better but I'm not brave enough to try it.

What I'm trying to say is that rescue cats, even early rescues aren't often socially adept. I was having Empty Nest syndrome, couldn't afford a siamese or i wouldn't have tried new rescue cat. He was raised by a university student and reached for me from the cage. I couldn't resist.

You are doing some of us a favor by giving the world "normal" cats that aren't expensive breeder kittens. I searched for two or three months for a normal, family raised kitten like yours.

Also, some adoptions are ridiculously expensive and intrusive. Before we found this cat, dd called about a kitten at a pet food store. The owner/adoption person required taking 2 kittens, not one, wanted paperwork from my vet on ALL of our pets and wanted 2 or 3 home visits, blah, blah, blah. Erhm....NO!!

Ignore the naysayers, you are a wonderful mother and responsible pet owner. Enjoy the experience with dcs. In the "Old Days" pets giving birth and then raising puppies or kittens was an intregal part of learning how to nurture babies, facts of life/birth/possibly death and parents teaching so many things about taking care of vulnerable little babies. I wish that i had been able to do so with my dc. My dh still fondly remembers when his dog had a litter of pups.

I'm sorry to ramble but the world is being sucked dry by the social/political/environmental policies that we are placing on ourselves bc we listen to slogans, celebrities and media echo chambers. We need to think independently with practicality about things instead of listening to loud voices spoken with authority.

Simple pleasures are being swept away. It's not good to voluntarily give away simple, normal experiences.

maxthemartian · 13/09/2017 18:17

Abbylee what a pile of shite.

DeleteOrDecay · 13/09/2017 18:20

i honestly don't get why people leave toms intact, they absolutely stink

Yes, tell me about it. And they piss everywhere. Fucking nightmare.

Our last cats were a 2 year old mum and 18 month old son. Yes really. She had a litter at 6 months.

That is so sad. Our kitten is just coming up to 6 months. They're still babies at that ageSad

Abby Lee what a horrible way to talk about animals. You go on like they exist for your entertainment. Sad.

AccrualIntentions · 13/09/2017 18:21

Abbylee what a pile of shite.

Amen.

Walkingdead11 · 13/09/2017 18:22

Abbylee

All about you ain't it?? Probably have a gas guzzling 4 x 4 for the school run too?

SquatBetty · 13/09/2017 18:29

OP - well done, glad to see you've taken what the majority have been saying on board. Sorry I referred to you as a fucking idiot earlier.

Abbeylee - what absolute bollocks!

Wolfiefan · 13/09/2017 18:31

Lala. I am so sorry. That's bloody awful.

Abby you are talking complete rubbish.

Orangebird69 · 13/09/2017 18:34

Abby, just STFU.

kiwiblue · 13/09/2017 18:35

OP, if you have a 3 year old Tom cat, how do you know he hasn't impregnated your cat? Are they kept separate? Just wondering!

Mittens1969 · 13/09/2017 18:36

@Wolfiefan, yes I know only too well that some cats can't cope with children. My companion cat of 10 years (she was 3 years old when she came to live with me as a rescue cat) couldn't cope and developed so many stress problems. It was devastating.

I'll have to talk it over with Cats Protection. I haven't got a job right now and my DDs are school age so it would be a lovely job to have.

We have a big enough house so it should be possible to keep a pregnant foster cat away from DDs and cats, but it will need to be though through carefully. It might need to wait until the DDs are older.

OP posts:
Mittens1969 · 13/09/2017 18:37

@kiwiblue, No he's neutered as is her brother from the same litter.

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laurielee23 · 13/09/2017 18:40

I have had a couple of rescue cats - they were both plagued with behavioural issues. We then got a kitten at 9 weeks from a great home and he was the best cat we ever had. He was incredibly clean, calm and trouble free. Sometimes it is easier to have a cat from a kitten who has had good mothering.

Mittens1969 · 13/09/2017 18:43

My rescue cat was my best pet ever, she just couldn't cope with children. It was so sad. My mistake was not acting sooner to try and rehome her before she got too ill.

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Mittens1969 · 13/09/2017 20:32

@SquatBetty, thank you, apology accepted. I guess I was being an idiot really, but I was massively projecting. It was the thought of losing such a lovely young cat, and all the kittens, which brought me to my senses. My DDs would be devastated, they're 8 and 5, too old to hide the truth from.

One thing is for sure, you guys on mumsnet will always knock sense into me. Thank you.

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RitaMills · 13/09/2017 20:48

I'm so glad you've seen sense OP. I'm sure momentarily losing all sensible thought at the thought of little kittens around the house happens to the best of us, they are pretty darn cute! Grin

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