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To have told my DS(3) about his biological father?

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mamapow · 06/09/2017 21:56

Will try not to let this become an essay...

Met my DS's biological father whilst studying abroad. Became pregnant by accident and decided that I wanted to carry on with the pregnancy even though he wasn't entirely certain. Due to hyperemesis, I decided to return home early to move back in with my parents and he stayed abroad. There was discussion of us meeting up when he came home as well as meeting one another's families, but when he returned and I heard nothing from him I decided to contact his mum to tell her of the situation. Basically, I didn't want her to have a grandchild she didn't know about. His family were upbeat and positive about the situation, saying they wanted to be involved with DS even if his father didn't.

Since then I've only seen his parents twice with DS and it's been over two years since the last meet-up. I got a message from the half-sister a couple of months back saying that her step-Dad (DS's grandad) has been really upset wanting to come and see him but didn't feel able to come on his own without his ex, DS's grandma (we live 3.5 hours away and obviously haven't had much to do with them). So, my mum and I have decided to take DS to see his grandad, step-Auntie and cousins this weekend, as I feel that keeping contact with his biological family is important, in case he wants to have a relationship with them in the future.

Now for the contentious bit. I met my current boyfriend just before DS turned 1. Its been a rocky relationship, as he's even younger than me, and hasn't been sure if he's ready to be a dad. However, he's always had a big issue with DS's biological father, despite the fact that he still lives abroad and has never met him. Boyfriend basically feels threatened that he might turn up one day and replace him, especially as DS still doesn't think of my boyfriend as a dad, due to the fact that he's been in and out of the picture, although things have been great recently and they've become really close.

So we've had a huge argument today because I felt it necessary to explain to my DS who we were going to see this weekend, which required telling him (very briefly) about who his biological father is. He is now 3 and aware enough of family set-ups to have started asking questions at nursery about daddies, as well as often being confused about who his dad is (often thinking my dad is his dad AND grandad). I have never wanted to lie to him but have also never felt I needed to broach the subject before, so now I have, I wanted to be completely honest. Boyfriend seems to think I should have told him that HE was the biological father and then we could have told him the truth once he was older and better able to understand. He also accused me of telling half-truths because I gave a brief description of the story and said he had to stay abroad for work, not because he didn't want to be a dad. I told him that because everything that I've read about telling your children about absent parents explicitly says DO NOT be negative about that parent as the child may take it as a personal criticism because they are 50% theirs or they may blame themselves for that parent not being around. Also to just be as honest and open as possible, not lie about who his dad is.

Basically, I'm just wondering if I'm doing the right thing or if I should have just made some other story up about who the people we're seeing are. My boyfriend's so angry and is thinking about ending the relationship because he can't deal with another father figure in the picture. I'm so emotionally exhausted by the whole thing and am just petrified of not doing the right thing for DS.

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Hissy · 07/09/2017 07:52

Seriously get rid of that twat of a boyfriend

Having someone this selfish and resentful in your ds life will damage him.

Only choose men who make everything easier

Worriedrose · 07/09/2017 08:07

God the boyfriend sounds awful.
He might not be ready, if he isn't then he should fuck off and not act like a spoilt beat.

He genuinely thought it would be ok to lie to a three year old about his parentage
The mind boggles, when you say younger is he 16

This is only going to get worse, resentment towards your son will crop up, even if things are ok now.
You need to find someone who is an actual grown up. And if he's not one, I don't think he'll ever be one.
LTB

Worriedrose · 07/09/2017 08:07

Brat!! Not beat

Worriedrose · 07/09/2017 08:09

And why the fuck did this immature idiot start dating a woman with a one year old

The mind boggles

Fekko · 07/09/2017 08:11

I'd suggest one of them has to go... no prize there.

Your child is your primary responsibility and no matter what happens he will always be your son. Partners come and go.

thegirlupnorth · 07/09/2017 08:11

I think you've to be congratulated for how you're handling your sons family and situation. However you need a kick up the backside and to get rid of the pitiful excuse of a BF, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or my DC.

Coffeeandcrochet · 07/09/2017 08:27

Your boyfriend is selfishly placing his own jealousy and insecurity over what is best for your son. If, as it seems, he is not able to put your son's emotional welfare before his own, he has no place in your son's life.

KatnissMellark · 07/09/2017 08:32

You are doing absolutely the right thing. My mother has never told me the full truth about my father and as a result I doubt my parentage (there are many factors pointing to the possibility that the man she says is my Dad, is not) and doubt my relationships with my siblings. I am a happy, strong person (no thanks to her!) but it is the biggest source of sadness in my life.

DontbouncelikeIdid · 07/09/2017 08:35

Your BF really doesn't come out looking very good in this situation. Of course telling the truth in an age appropriate way is the right thing to do for a child. I can't believe your BF, who is not sure if he is ready to take on a child, but wants to pretend to be the biological Dad.

kateandme · 07/09/2017 08:35

you definitely did the right thing.thanks goodness for mothers like you hu :) you sound so loving and sensible and all the things your doing to include the other family.wow.truly inspirational mummy behaviour there considering we usually seeing threads arguing over not seeing ex family or huge problems there etc etc.
he will be so much better for knowing early on,straight away. and for not having you critisie his dads beahvour.yes what happened wasn't the nicest thing to not be a dad.but for all sorts of shitty reasons this does happen. and sometimes dads come back and rightly or wrongly they want to be part of the lives and most if not some go on to be the best dads ever having learnt from growing up.or they don't but at least your son will always know the truth and be able t make his own mind up.
the bitterness and rage ad resentment at beign lied to would have been focused on your in the future if you would have lied.
family is the biggest feeling of betrayel and loss if your lied to.you end up not knowing who the hell you are or who to trust.
obviously exceptional circumstances can apply
regarding the bf.he has no riht to (in this situ) expect to be calling any of the shots.and doesn't sound like he wants or can be a good enough dad to even consider doing so.from what ive taken from your description of his behaviour anyway.
keep strong.
keep going.it can be easy for you either.youve been through the shit too with all of this.just think of your own heart and your lovly dc and work from there.i think it will be hard enough to no his dad isn't or doesn't want to be in his life without the rest being all muddled and changed later.
keep calm to.this type of thing can make you feel like you wan tto blow. but as long as your doing what safe and good for your little family then all will be well in the end.
your ex I think will regret his decision one day...but how amazing your child will still be from having the support of you and other family if that point occurs.

kateandme · 07/09/2017 08:37

plus from what you've said on bf he sounds more like hes being a gruff he man and jealous over the "dad" and has a complex rather than looking out for your best interests and ur dcs.but I could be wrong.just sounds all bout how he feels not whats right.
plus its brilliant your ex family want to meet him.

newdocket · 07/09/2017 08:46

i think you sound very sensible, reasonable and thoughtful. your bf does not.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 07/09/2017 08:47

I think you have done the right thing too. If your bf was the right person for your family this wouldn't be an issue. My DB met my SIL when her DS was 5. His DSS has always know that DB is not his bio-dad but he also knows that for the last 17 years its DB who has been there for him whilst his bio-dad hasn't.

Children need to know that the adults in their life care for them and put them first; they don't need to be bio parents to do that. However, they do need to be loving adults not stroppy immature idiots who think their feeling are more important than that of a child.

MoosicalDaisy · 07/09/2017 08:55

A selfish DP would insist: Tell him i'm his father and we can tell him the truth later. I don't like the fact your son has a father and don't really want DS involved with his paternal family because it's confusing him. Oh and your ex might come back on the scene and take you both away.

A non-selfish DP would: Be concerned for your DS. Encourage visitation with birth father's family. If he really wanted to be called 'daddy' he wouldn't be acting so selfish, would have made a stronger commitment to you and your DS 2 years ago.

Tilapia · 07/09/2017 09:09

You did the right thing to tell your child.

However, personally I wouldn't bend over backwards to keep in touch with your ex's family, as they've made so little effort themselves. It's fine if you want to, but I wouldn't bother just because you're thinking of DS. It sounds as if they'll be barely present in his life anyway, so maybe less confusing if they're out of the picture altogether. (It would be different if you were taking him to see his Dad rather than his Dad's family.)

Floellabumbags · 07/09/2017 09:20

You're doing the right thing by your son. Get rid of the boyfriend, he's not going to miraculously change for the better.

UnicornSparkles1 · 07/09/2017 09:31

Why are you wasting your time with this stroppy man-child? Surely you have your hands full enough with your actual 3 year old without adding a man with the same emotional level as a 3 yr old into the mix. Ditch the teenager and focus on bringing up your child to be a well rounded person.

In time you will find someone worthy of you and your son. Hope you have a nice weekend with the inlaws Flowers

ittakes2 · 07/09/2017 09:31

Sorry your DP sounds insecure, please don't lie to your son. When he is older and finds out the truth he may feel devastated that something so fundamental to him has been lied about.

Ttbb · 07/09/2017 09:54

You boyfriend just sounds like a bit of a prick.

FizzyGreenWater · 07/09/2017 10:08

However, he's always had a big issue with DS's biological father - no need to read any further than this really. If your son is your priority, you ditch the boyfriend for this and this alone!

Boyfriend basically feels threatened that he might turn up one day and replace him, especially as DS still doesn't think of my boyfriend as a dad, due to the fact that he's been in and out of the picture - Perhaps if your bf had more self-awareness he might realise that the main reason anyone might replace him is because so far he hasn't fulfilled the father role anyway, as he has been 'in and out of the picture'? What is your three year old supposed to do - make allowances for him? Right...

He is now 3 and aware enough of family set-ups to have started asking questions at nursery about daddies, as well as often being confused about who his dad is (often thinking my dad is his dad AND grandad). - Yes, this is the effect having a set-up like this, with a loser in the picture as 'dad'. Your son is well on the way to ending up pretty confused and insecure about this. Great that you have told him who his biological father is and laid out the truth clearly for him - no matter what the relationship ends up being, this is good solid truth, it is understandable, and it will make him feel more secure with a proper 'story'. It also paves the way for potential relationships with his dad's family in the future AND helps define any new relationships, 'stepdad' etc.

Boyfriend seems to think I should have told him that HE was the biological father and then we could have told him the truth once he was older and better able to understand - he's an absolute prick who once again shows that his main concern is himself, and not a three-year old child. Once again, the only thing he's bringing to the table are his own childish needs. And this is from someone who so far hasn't even fulfilled the 'dad' role he wants you to lie to your son about...

My boyfriend's so angry and is thinking about ending the relationship because he can't deal with another father figure in the picture - Fantastic news. Help him pack. Good luck with being able to sort out a clearer way ahead for you and your son without this idiot getting in the way.

mamapow · 07/09/2017 10:09

Thank you everyone. I've woken up feeling really angry and upset this morning. As you've all rightly pointed out, this should be about DS and not about BF who's somehow managed to place himself at the centre of all this.

I just have to work out how best to end the relationship now. I won't see him until we get back but I don't really want this hanging over me all weekend either. May just have to put it to the back of mind so I can focus on DS.

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Hissy · 07/09/2017 13:12

GOOD! I'm glad you are angry! that is something that is WAY overdue!

the truth is what you have, and what you need to use with your DS. Anything less and you are cheating your own DS.

His Dad, in reality, wasn't there for him, if you lie to him or collude in a lie, you are actually worse than his bio dad.

Your boyf is jealous, resentful and wanting to take a bigger position in your lives, without any reason to.

If he was smart (which he is definitely NOT) he would just get on with getting on with everyone, knowing that his presence in your lives will give him the status of the default 'dad'. A real hands on position

But if this is how he is now, I just know that if (horror of horrors) you have a child with him, he will drop your DS like a rock, and play favourites with his own flesh and blood over your DS.

There is no time like the present, send him a text to tell him that actually while he's threatening to thinking of ending things, you are actually ending things and that he needs to make plans to get his stuff together and leave.

Hissy · 07/09/2017 13:13

This is the easiest way of doing what needs to be done, they say they are going to leave unless you do what they want, all you have to do is say, no, it's best you leave and take them up on the offer.

Trust me, this was the way I got out of a 10-year abusive relationship. Scary, but absolutely essential

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