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Wwyd/aibu work not sticking to contract/verbal agreement

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ABitDisgruntled · 05/09/2017 16:44

Nc'd, dont want to be outing so have to use hypothetical figures...

Basically I took on a job with a probationary salary which the contract states was for 6 months. There was no figure for the end salary, verbally it was what the last person received, which the accountants know but they weren't sure of.

So I get say 10k and the last person got 18k. So after 6 months, a group of "managers" discuss, say I've passed my probation, all happy, but they think I should wait a year for proper salary, so another 6 months (suggested by someone who hadn't seen the contract and the others didn't disagree). I'm actually quite ok with that, I go along with it. I took the job because I really like it and 6 months isn't going to make much difference to me.

So we get to the year mark. It's discussed again. The same person as last time says I should have a 1%/1.5% rise as in their work (different sector) that's what they get. Nobody really understands and so that's agreed between them.

Now it's being fed back to me I'm trying to explain the difference between a yearly pay rise (1%) and a rise to the proper non probationary wage. They're different things altogether. I'm actually quite peeved about it and have said so, my direct manager says I should explain what I mean to the others, which I'm fine with.

But how do I put it without sounding grabby or money hungry? That's not the case, I just don't see why I should accept sub wages for a job I'm currently doing (and have been for a year) better than the person who left just because I'm "young in the job", or they don't seem to grasp pay rise and probation pay to non-probabtion pay are different (in this case).

So aibu? Wwyd? This is a really odd job, there is no hr, I am the only paid employee.

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RaptorInaPorkPieHat · 05/09/2017 16:53

Keep pushing for more money, if you're doing the same job as the person before then you should be worth the same (or actually the same plus inflation).

As my old boss (an Accountant) used to say "1.5% of fuck all, is still fuck all"

If you are being paid sub par wages and only get the same percentage increase as everyone else, you will always be paid sub par wages, you will never catch up.

LairyMcClary · 05/09/2017 16:56

It's really odd that you just let this happen. You were supposed to almost double your pay, they said no and you just kept working? Why? They are going to pay you the least they can get away with and you are apparently letting them.
I would walk in and say "I want X amount as originally agreed, and I want it now. I have already waited 6 months longer than agreed". No negotiation.

haveacupoftea · 05/09/2017 16:56

Have you got a copy of your original contract? Photocopy it, highlight the relevant parts, forward it to them. Find job adverts for the same job and highlight the starting salary and hand hand that out to them. They do know and they do understand, they're trying to get away with paying you less than they should. So don't let them.

Ttbb · 05/09/2017 17:07

Just say that your current wage is s probationary wage as agreed when you signed the contract. You have been working there for a year so feel that it is time for a full salary as opposed to a probationary one. You don't want/ask for a raise. You have only been there a year and are happy to forgo a raise. All you want is to start receiving a full salary.

blacksax · 05/09/2017 17:13

How about explaining it like this?

Tell them that the original agreement was that you would work a 6-month probationary period on Salary A, and after that you would then be paid Salary B (previous person's salary). The job was offered and you accepted on that basis.

After the 6 months were up, it was mutually agreed that you were going to wait until you had been there a full 12 months, and then they would pay you Salary B.

However, you have now been offered Salary A + 1% which is not what was originally agreed.

araiwa · 05/09/2017 17:14

By agreeing not to have your pay increase that was agreed to at 6 months youve already shown youre weak so theyre doing it again. Why the hell did you agree that??

ABitDisgruntled · 05/09/2017 17:38

Thanks for the replies. I honestly don't know why I agreed to it the first time! I was a bit taken aback and I guess felt like I couldn't or shouldn't argue. Definitely wasn't using my business brain and it was very silly of me.

blacksax that's a good way to put it clearly thank you. I'm going to write it out along those lines nice and clearly.

I've been doing my job plus most of theirs for most of the year thanks to the last person who set it up that way as it was easier for them, but not the way it should be.

Ok, thanks for the kick up the proverbial. I've been a walkover really so it stops now.

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DailyMailReadersAreThick · 05/09/2017 17:45

But how do I put it without sounding grabby or money hungry?

Stop worrying about sounding grabby or money hungry. You did that by agreeing to another six months on your probation salary, and look where it's got you.

When I have big career decisions I always ask myself "What would a man do?" because of all the studies showing women don't negotiate pay, don't ask for payrises, don't do all sorts of things that men do as standard.

Can you imagine a man sitting with his friends and asking "How can I ask for the salary I was promised without sounding grabby?" Hell no.

Tell them you completed your probation on a probation wage and now need your full pay. Don't be afraid to walk if they keep trying to renege on the deal.

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