WIBU to print off this article and give it to the teacher.

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DD (8) came home from school at the end of last term talking about the differences in male and female brains (not relating to their weight or structure!). Her teacher had declared she has a 'male' brain because she is logical and rational.
This sort of talk boils my blood.
My next child is in her class this year and I don't want her to listen to this sort of crap.

I get on reasonably well with this teacher, but there are very few opportunities to chat.

So WIBU to print off an article from The New Scientist debunking that theory and send it in with a note saying 'thought you might find this interesting'?

Just because you know someone is foreign is there a reason to comment on it? Hey Johhny Furriner your essay is late

solarisIsAClassic

I don't know whether they are 100% the same or not. It seems to me as though studies/stats contradict each other.

What I do know is logic is not an innate trait specific to men.

Like a pp suggested, if we strip away socialisation, and then be left with the differences, I suspect they are minimal. Far more minimal than is generally supposed.

The differences between males and females, if any, are far outweighed by the differences in their socialisation.

The "science" used to say poc were also just not as intelligent as white people. This had nothing to do with bme people being told they weren't clever and being given fewer opportunities right? Just white brains vs brown brains

Brains build connections based on their environment. There is actually greater differences between people brought up in very different cultures with brain connections, than between women and men in the same culture.

Anyone recommending delusions of gender needs a shake- that is so far behind the time s

ChickenVindaloo2

Well isn't that the same thing though? If men are only praised for highly 'masculine' traits, it's because 'feminine' traits are not considered praiseworthy, in a man. Why?

It is thought that one of the reasons men have a higher rate of suicide is because failure in a man is considered so weak. Gender stereotyping. They have trouble expressing distress and seeking help and support. Don't cry like a girl.

The BBC programme showed that boys at age 7 were already angry, whilst girls had low self-esteem. Why? Because we are forcing stereotypes on them that aren't necessarily natural.

Age seven.

I appreciate that the threads moved on a bit now, but I'm interested in what sendcoffee posted

my 2.5yr old DS's favourite colour is pink. He also loves diggers and tractors, but anything pink is his favourite

..I'm hoping he doesn't grow out of that!

Genuine question here- why are you hoping he doesn't grow out of it? What does it matter what his favourite colour is pink or orange or brown?

Certainly no one on this thread has suggested that logic is an innate male trait.

This thread has boiled down to nature vs nurture and simply disagreeing about proportions.

I think that you need to apply the same rationale and ratios to any idea of nature vs nurture. ASD (for example), EQ, IQ, male vs female brains ...

IQ, EQ etc come down to nurture too.

Genuine question here- why are you hoping he doesn't grow out of it? What does it matter what his favourite colour is pink or orange or brown

Because boys (like all children) tend to like bright colours as children, they only stop when they learn it's not allowed. That's obvious isn't it?

That's obvious isn't it?

well obviously not otherwise why would I have asked?

OMG here we go again....
This need to out anyone you feel thinks in a different way to the herd on MN.
Chicken your amazing, and so bright to have got all the letters behind your name, and considering your job, I bet you could face this lot in court and make mincemeat out of them.
www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/study-finds-some-significant-differences-brains-men-and-women
PrincessWonderRabbit if you take every word to mean what it says, as you seem to the it shows your IQ is much less the Chicken.
Maybe the teacher is wrong to say male and she should have said technical minded, but people seem so intent on PC being the watch word, your children are missing out on so much because of this.
This teacher is trying to raise your children to question and search out info, how many times do you bother to tell her good job, well done, amazing day at school NEVER,, but should she say one thing wrong OMG the shame of it...
Get a hold of yourself's and look in the mirror, your children need to be able to pass of small things like this and grown up with self awareness and pride in who they are, this is your job as a parent, to not obsess over little things that CLOUD the big picture....

Ignore him Hattie. He likes to come onto threads like this and shout his way through answers despite rarely being directly addressed.

He answers on behalf of women, trying to bully his way into discussions.

I'm really interested in coffee's answer to your question.

HattiesBackpack I thought exactly the same. Hoping that your child's favourite colour always remains their colour is... interesting.

It's the sort of question people try to use to catch someone out, like they think the person is doing "reverse sexism" or some other nonsense. So, that's the reason I assumed you asked.

Ignore him Hattie. He likes to come onto threads like this and shout his way through answers despite rarely being directly addressed.

Do I? I've been using this name change for approximately 5 hours, I'm pleased to think I've already made a name for myself

Genuine question here- why are you hoping he doesn't grow out of it? What does it matter what his favourite colour is pink or orange or brown?

Because the second he says "I don't like Pink, it's a Girls Colour!"
Means that he is bowing to peer pressure to conform.
Teach him to say "No I still like pink it's a nice colour!" and it means he is true to himself and can see beyond the herd.

I am a school governor and I can assure you that this would be taken very seriously at my school. Teachers simply should not be saying such silly things.

20nil and exactly how much is it going to cost to persecuted this Teacher because one parent had an issue with one word, money and time better sent on other more important things, like books.

OP, well done for having the courage of your convictions. And brilliant that the teacher is going to watch the programme.

Um, it wouldn't cost anything because no one would be 'persecuted'. It would be discussed at a Governors' meeting alongside other matters on the agenda and I think any subsequent action would be minimal. I'd probably suggest looking into how such statements comply with the guidelines for a start. This would take minutes.

mummy2017 would you be happy with the teacher saying the child had a white brain?

It's the fact no one says well done to a teacher.
How many of you have ever gone and thanked a teacher for a lesson they gave the child, for something the child learn.
Yet one word not liked, that you knew what she actually meant by it and OMG there are 172 posts about it.
We spend far to long obsessing about imagined wrongs when there are real wrongs that need sorting.

So not going to answer the question? Racism bad, sexism OK?

Unless you missed the thousand threads about teacher gifts in July you must know that's bullshit.

Solaris. Maybe no-one on this thread - I haven't checked - but to me "you have a male brain because you are logical" is very close to saying that logic is an innate male characteristic.

Can we agree that any statement to the effect that logic was an essentially male property - as opposed to there are small differences in average performance, which is arguable - would be absurd ?

Actually, we get lots of thank you letters and emails about great teachers.