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Do I deserve a council house?

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CottonEyedJoe · 02/09/2017 19:35

So I was homeless when I was pregnant after breaking up with abusive ex - I was told I'd have to spend at least a year in a homeless hostel. It was the most horrible thing I'd ever gone through - I've lived in a young person's hostel at 16, so I'm not averse to a shit environment, but this was something else. Drug addicts trying to kick your door down at 3am every night in case you had a fiver lying around. ExP got on meds for his mental illness, convinced me this would solve things, I believed him, I couldn't have my daughter in that enivironment, I moved back.

Everything was lovely for a while. I started uni when my little girl was 5 months old (had deferred my place due to getting pregnant).

Dd's 2 now. I broke up with exP at Christmas due to his mental illness making him manic - he was using cocaine on a daily basis which excacerbated the mental stuff; he was paranoid and controlling and just absolutely horrible. I couldn't have my little girl around that, and eventually saw I deserved better too, so we broke up.

This past 8 months, he's been attacking all of his friends because he believes they've all been sleeping with me (catagorically untrue, I don't even know them!)

He's a very very violent man when he's in this state. Was arrested for GBH in March. Not 100% what happened with that, but I know he did it.

He's threatened to strangle me, I got a non mol against him. He's breached it a couple of times, the CPS recommend remand but the judge keeps saying no. Next court case isn't until October.

I'm terrified. I've been referred to the fire service, who are coming next week to protect my house from arson. I can't let my little girl sleep in her own room. I keep having panic attacks over stupid stuff when I'm convinced he's broken in. I suffer with anxiety anyway - this is really tipping me over the edge.

My DV worker tells me they're having a MARAC conference next week, which is when a whole bunch of professionals (police, probation, doctors, SS, housing etc) come together to decide how best to guarantee my safety. She said to make a list of wishes and feelings that they can present at the meeting.

I've been googling for the type of stuff to say (I really just want him out of our lives forever, but putting him in prison for a million years isn't something they can realistically manage).

So I want his pre sentence report to have a massive emphasis on engagement of MH/ drug services. Mentally well, and clean, he's just a pathetic little man. Mentally unwell, and high on crack cocaine, he's a highly dangerous person.

I want social services to stop forcing me to speak to him. It's shocking the things I've been ordered to do, even the police say it's really put me at risk.

But while I've been googling, I've found that DV victims who've had a MARAC are often moved up to band A for social housing.

I work my arse off, as well as studying 24/7, and looking after a 2 year old, to keep our lovely home. It is lovely. But my little girl can't sleep in her room, I'm terrified, he's made threats to others that if they send him to jail he will get them killed, so even if he goes to jail I'm not safe.

I can't move, his mum and dad are my guarantors and they say they won't be again due to this court case. It was a fluke I got this place - you have to earn £30k+ to rent somewhere private even with a guarantor in my area. I rent this house from an acquaintance. It's honestly impossible otherwise.

I've thought about a refuge, but I would be so sad to leave my family and my job and my university course.

So if I could get a council house, where he doesn't know I am, I couldn't imagine anything better. I can't lie; I'd love the attraction of a secure tenancy too.

BUT - I work, I will have a degree this time next year. Looking like I'll get first class honours so I should do ok in life. I'm 24 now, I've absolutely slaved my arse off from 7am - 12am every single day for the past 3 years to get what we've got. To go from being homeless with fuck all to having a wonderful toddler, a job, a lovely home and (nearly) a degree. Back when I was pregnant at 21 with nothing, I feel I was much more worthy. Now I'm doing ok. Apart from this massive shadow hanging over my head. A shadow that realistically one day might kill me.

But is that a big enough deal to deserve a council house over someone who's been living in a homeless hostel like the one I talked about earlier with their child for 3 years? As in, I do have a lovely home that I can just about afford.

Am I morally wrong to suggest this to be brought up for my meeting? I would honestly give up my tenancy in 3 years - that's the time i expect I'll be earning a good enough wage to rent alone. I'm not a bad person, when I don't need it anymore, I'll pass it to someone that does.

Sorry it's long - and please don't flame me. I'm already thinking about the fact it's immoral, I'm not deluded. I'd just love to feel safe.

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TeachesOfPeaches · 02/09/2017 22:25

A secure council tenancy has once again become something to aspire to these days OP.

I had a similar situation to you and I'm paying £1100 for a tiny one bedroom flat in a private rental in London.

You need a fresh start with no ties to your ex so do all you can to achieve that.

I've also gone through the court process and each judgement has been on mine and my son's side. You're doing brilliantly OP - well done

ArcheryAnnie · 02/09/2017 22:34

Good luck, OP. Not immoral at all. I just wish there was more council housing out there so that you - and everyone else - had a better chance.

ChasedByBees · 02/09/2017 22:34

I agree you're doing brilliantly and you should let the council decide if you're able to have a council house. You absolutely should apply for everything you can to make you and your DD's life better though.

Threenme · 02/09/2017 22:35

cotton do you even know that you are incredible, brilliant, amazing and all that's in between! What you have achieved is amazing. Reading your post has made me incredibly angry. Why should you live in fear? I do not think you are being supported well at all. I hope your meeting goes very well, I hope your ex gets a long time in prison and if you are offered a council house take it. People a lot less deserving have and do!

CottonEyedJoe · 02/09/2017 23:02

Thank you so much everyone. I will ask my HV about a family support worker. I've just applied, detailing everything I've told you guys, and sent an email to my DV worker asking whether I should get supporting statements from my GP/ police/ HV or wait for the MARAC. Hopefully brighter things are to come. I'm got big plans and I'm going to help lots of disadvantaged youngsters to the best of my ability in my future career, so I'll pay society back tenfold I hope Smile

cotton do you even know that you are incredible, brilliant, amazing and all that's in between! What you have achieved is amazing.

This comment especially has made my day Smile

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OhOfCourse · 02/09/2017 23:58

@CottonEyedJoe Please ask. If you don't ask you don't get. You sound so phenomenal - a real inspiration. Good luck! I'm rooting for you and your LOFlowers

PickAChew · 03/09/2017 00:04

Of course you're deserving of a council tenancy! Even if something unexpected crops up and you aren't able to relinquish it as soon as you'd hoped.

It's a pretty sad indictment of the current situation when someone in your position is unsure whether they deserve the chance to rent a relatively secure and not prohibitively expensive home for themself and their children.

beepbeeprichie · 03/09/2017 00:09

Everything Pick says is spot on.
Plus the council tenancy isn't just about you- it's about securing your daughter's future. You've done an amazing job to achieve all you have in 3 years. Why not apply and see if you can get that extra bit of stability for her and you? Also it doesn't seem from your posts like you're going to sit in a council property for ever. With a first class degree and your determination you are going to make a good life for yourself and will be able to move onwards and upwards. Absolutely go for it.

SerfTerf · 03/09/2017 00:15

Don't be so silly. You're having a MARAC convened about you. That's no small thing. Your ex is extremely violent and you have a non mol.

You need a secure home address. You have no realistic way of moving other than to council housing. You need to keep your DD safe. The authorities will watch to ENSURE you keep your DD safe?

Why are you even debating this? Or talking about it being "immoral"?

In the nicest possible way, stop posing here as masochistic click bait for right wing lions and GET ON WITH IT Smile

Staxy19 · 28/09/2019 08:22

Hi Cotton probably abit late now but how did it go? Did you get the council banding x

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