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AIBU to be enraged with the neighbours

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PeapodBurgundy · 01/09/2017 15:59

Bit of background, there are huge issues in my area with litter, fly tipping and people dumping rubbish in the alleyways instead of putting it in their wheelie bin. This is made worse by other people ripping into said bags of rubbish scavanging for things. The council budget for street cleaning has been stripped to the bone and the issue is getting worse and worse.
I joined a scheme where the people of the town are supplied with kit to help clear up their local area (bags, a hoop, litter picker, gloves and stickers for larger items such as furniture etc), the procedure is then to place the rubbish either at the end of the alleyway if it's a big litter pick/larger items, or place by a public bin on a main road if it's a smaller pick (only a few bags), then call/email the council with their location for them to collect and dispose of it.
I don't expect any thanks for doing it, I have no illusions that anyone should be on bended knee or anything like that, but I'm so pissed off with the atttitude of some people over what I'm doing. People have been making complaint after complaint about the bags (bright orange and labelled so it's obvious it's council rubbish, not another fly tip), to the point that somebody rounded up a load of the bags I'd left at the end of the alleyway, ripped into them, emptied them outside my back gate, and threw a large portion of it over my back wall.
What I can't work out, is why it doesn't seem to bother people when it's strewn everywhere, yet as soon as I bag it up, they start complaining about flies and rats being attracted by the rubbish. They can't seem to get their head around the fact that there isn't any more rubbish in the area than there was perviously, it just happens to be all in one place now. Yes there's always a lot of it, but surely it's better bagged up with immenant chance of collection that strewn everywhere for up to a fortnight? (The council clear it once every+ two weeks, after bin day).
I know it's not nice to walk past piles of rubbish, but it was in the area in the first place, and it's there on a temporary basis until the council collect it. I'm just so enraged that people are so awkward over me trying to make the area nicer!
I've tried leaving it in different places, or splitting it between a couple of places so it's less in one place, but wherever I put it, SOMEBODY complains, and they aim it at me, not at the people tipping it in the first place, or at the council who are the ones responsible for collecting it. The amount of times I hear 'YOUR rubbish', or 'you put it there, you should take it to the tip'. FFS aside from the fact I don't have a car, why should I take it to the tip? Surely I've done my share bagging it up? Surely I'm not the cause of the problem here? Or AIBU and not seeing the woods for the trees?

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MsVestibule · 01/09/2017 16:25

Of course YANBU. You are doing a good thing for your community and whilst you don't expect them to erect a statue of you, yes, a 'thanks for doing that' would be nice. I bet most are pleased; it's just the vocal minority who make their views known.

I wonder if they simply don't notice the rubbish dumped/dropped in the street but they do notice it when it's all bagged up? So as far as they're concerned, you're creating a problem that didn't exist for them before. Still absolutely no excuse for emptying the bags, though Angry.

DratThatCat · 01/09/2017 16:26

YANBU. To be honest, I'm surprised that natural selection hasn't picked off these idiots with less than two brain cells to rub together.

The only reason I can see for your neighbours reacting as they are is that they don't know about this scheme and think you are flytipping, or they are in fact a sandwich short of a picnic. Could you ask the council to post a letter through your neighbours door explaining about the scheme and asking them not to move the orange bags? It must be so annoying for you. But well done on actually doing something to improve your neighbourhood, you should be proud of yourself Smile

PeapodBurgundy · 01/09/2017 17:05

Thank goodness I appear not to have completely cracked up just yet! Grin They are aware of the scheme, which is the baffling part, there are stickers saying Collected by Street Champions, and I've explained it to the people I've actually spoken with. A lot if the complaints are on a local Facebook page where people are photographing the piles and posting a rant about it. Nobody wants the bags near where they live/work/walk past, which I get, I really do, but it was placed no more than a street away from where I collected it from. They don't seem to be able to get their head around the fact that all I've done is bag it up, I'm not bringing it to the area. I've started responding with before, during and after pictures of the cleanup. I need to rise above it, but I'm too cross atm

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Ttbb · 01/09/2017 17:16

What pricks. Maybe stop collecting it and just set up CCTV and report peopleeacg time they litter. They'll miss your old bad collecting days.

PovertyPain · 01/09/2017 17:34

Security camera pointed towards your gate and then stick a video of the fuckers on your Facebook. Ok, not the Facebook, but you could say that you have evidence which you are happy to put on Facebook if it doesn't stop.

PeapodBurgundy · 01/09/2017 17:38

I almos threw the towel in with it he other day I'll admit, but one of the other pickers reminded me why I joined (looked out of my kitchen window one day to see a rat sat bold as brass on DS' slide Envy.
Everything collected gets photographed, as does anything with names and addresses on, annd all of that information gets sent to the enforcement officer (we have ONE for the whole of the town). There's a zero tolerance policy, multiple fines are issued each week, but people just don't pay them so there's effectively no consequence to their actions.
I'm hoping that eventually somebody from the court will get sick of the same names coming through time and time again for the same thing and just start issuing custodial sentences.

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PeapodBurgundy · 01/09/2017 17:42

Poverty I know exactly who it is, as do the police. She told screamed at me that she was going to do it in the middle of the street so there were several witnesses. It's the kind of street where nobody will talk to the police thought. I hate living here, but I have a choice beween living here and being able to aford to stay home with DS until he starts nursery, or put him in day care, go back to work and afford somewhere nicer. At the moment I just to say hate living here less than I'd hate missing all the firsts while he's at nursery and I'm at work.

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PovertyPain · 01/09/2017 18:58

That sounds awful, peapod, would the council be willing to supply a skip, or some of those big bins that used behind businesses? They might need o be chained together to stop them being pinched or moved, but at least the rubbish would be 'hidden'. That dickhead sounds like she's jealous of the good name you're probably getting for yourself, with the decent people in the area.

ScissorBow · 01/09/2017 19:27

It sounds like the council needs to do a better PR job explaining the scheme to people - not your job! Also to collect the bagged stuff quicker or put it somewhere unreachable - a combination lock Biffa type bin that no one else can fly tip their stuff into but you can use as a place to store the orange bagged waste?

teaandakitkat · 01/09/2017 19:30

How depressing for you to put all that effort in and be treated like that.

saveforthat · 01/09/2017 19:37

I don't have any suggestions but just wanted to say thank you for caring about your neighbourhood. I do too, I wish our council would start an incentive like that. I pick up litter when I walk my dog. May I ask what area you are in? I would like to ask our council to start this.

PeapodBurgundy · 02/09/2017 16:33

There isn't anywhere for large bins to go where they wouldn't block the bin and recycling wagons. We're trying to get a residents committee together so we can fundraise to get gates put on. It won't stop the problems all together, but it will stop vans coming and fly tipping furniture etc.
I'm in Darlington (there's a Facebook page called Darlington Street Champions if you want to see how ours works or rather doesn't work I think Middlesbrough has a scheme too, but I could be wrong on that.
The bloke who started the scheme off has had the council anti social behavior team at his door this morning following complaints about the bags. It's so disheartening, and so damned cheeky of the council to turn up when we're doing a chunk of their job for them Angry

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