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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

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50 replies

NettleTea · 28/08/2017 21:28

but Its driving me mental.

My son starts secondary school next week. He is a lovely kind gentle boy with ASD, and when we looked around all the local schools, our closest (by miles) school, which he can walk to in 5 minutes, and which is an OFSTED outstanding, the sort of place people remortgage their grannies to get into, was the one he really REALLY was excited to go to.

My daughter (also ASD but we didnt know it at the time) went to this school and lasted a year before she had a complete breakdown and had to be taken out altogether, but little brother is a different child and he wants to go. He knows if it goes tits up we can move him or home school, but he is sure that is the school for him

My stupid big worry is about his hair (see I told you IABU and its a stupid stupid given the huge number of things I could be worried about - bullying being the main one, him being targeted because he is quite obviously 'odd' although liked by his peers from a very small primary, and he doesnt get the social interaction bit too well)

He has always had long hair. This has been his choice. He has had it cut, but we have always had to say it is being 'trimmed' because of his aversion to it being cut. If its a sensory thing or a self-image thing I dont know but he has always been adamantly against what you would call a traditional 'boys' cut. He used to scream if we took him to the hairdresser and only allowed it to be trimmed if it began to get unmanageable due to knots, as its very fine. He is used to people mistaking him for a girl, and generally corrects them, and is pretty nonchalant about their confusion - its no big deal. He is confident in himself.

Of course this school has a 'boys have to have short hair' policy.

Tomorrow he is having it all cut off. well I say all but Im thinking we will have to just keep some length and have it cut straight round at the length we can get away with, and layered through it, as he absolutely refuses to have any more taken off. He has asked our neighbour - a hairdresser - to do it but he is absolutely beside himself. he is not sleeping. he has been crying. he has been going on and on about it for the last 2 weeks and now he has just gone to bed really worried and anxious about it. Ive tried commiserating and Ive tried just being matter of fact. Nothing is helping to be honest.

He says that if there was a proper reason then he can understand it, but there just isnt. He says that it is sexist, because the girls all have long hair and some of them have short hair which look like 'boys' haircuts. It cant be about safety because they dont make the girls tie theirs back, even though he would be quite happy to tie his back. He says it cant be about going to work because he sees loads of men in work with long hair - some very successful ones. He says when you go to college before you go to work you can dye it purple and grow it to your knees and nobody says 'we are teaching you to be responsible' - he says he likes rules (this is true, he follows rules to the letter mainly because he can see they are there for a reason) but he doesnt understand the reason for this one. But he knows he has to do it if he wants to go to this school.

He says that he feels like its just because they want to break a part of him, which I feel is a little dramatic, but I guess he feels very strongly about it. He is a good student - he studies hard, he is keen to learn, he pays attention in class, he never misbehaves, has never been on the red or the yellow, always polite and helpful and has fantastic SATS results. On induction days he found the lunchtime clubs and asked to join in - he knows how to avoid the situations which could make him stand out as a target

so why am I feeling so apprehensive

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MycatsaPirate · 28/08/2017 23:11

Totally sexist policy.

My DD goes to a middle school which is extremely strict on dress code and hair/make up/earrings etc.

But boys are allowed long hair as long as it's tied up, same as the girls.

There are two boys I regularly see going up to the school with their hair tied back and they both look pretty cool imo. Certainly seem to have their own style and aren't afraid to be 'different'.

Speak to the school again. I would certainly question the policy on the grounds that it's sexist.

Put it this way, if it stated that girls HAD to have long hair then there would fucking uproar.

FrogFairy · 28/08/2017 23:15

I think a bun would be a fair compromise, keeping it above the collar for school in accordance with their stupid rule.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 28/08/2017 23:15

What? Are they really allowed to make rules that only apply to one sex?!? I am horrified.

Challenge it, stand up for him & let him see you do that.

I think you ds sounds awesome by the way Smile

Lurkedforever1 · 28/08/2017 23:19

Yanbu. Have you clarified it with school because it could turn out to be a rule they don't enforce? Dd's has rules about hair and makeup but in reality they're only applied to anything extreme.

Alternatively could he have some form of loose bun, or lots of small braids tucked under iyswim so it just doesn't look obviously long in school?

FrancisCrawford · 28/08/2017 23:26

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BeepBeepMOVE · 28/08/2017 23:33

Sometime life has rules that don't have reasons.

Every job probably has some stupid rule that makes no sense.

I would cut his hair to the longest the rule will allow and explain that sometimes in life we have to do stuff just because.

FeelingAggrieved · 28/08/2017 23:34

This rule is fucking ridiculous. Why is it still a thing? Yanbu.

GinDoll · 28/08/2017 23:35

This is one where I would be arguing wih the school. It's not acceptable that he cannot have log hair if girls can. Please don't cut it.

Fruitcorner123 · 29/08/2017 00:38

agree with almost everyone this is so sexist and is causing your son anxiety. I am glad you are holding off cutting it. I hope the schoo realise how sexist they are being.

MarklahMarklah · 29/08/2017 09:54

I should add that I'm a school governor and if 'my' school had this policy I'd be kicking up a stink.

Bluelonerose · 29/08/2017 10:10

I agree it's a stupid rule. Think our secondary school paniced when the realised I had a dd coming the year after ds1. First time I stepped foot in that school my hair was bright blue and i had 1 side shaved. Grin
I would do what others have said with the sen route. But I would also see if you could get encouragement from other parents and present to the governers as sexist see if you can get a change of policy.
I'm bewildered why the policy of short hair exists for men. Long hair can look very smart on men

NettleTea · 29/08/2017 10:39

well I have spoken to my son this morning and he now says he doesnt want to cause trouble or draw attention to himself when he starts. He says that if the school were happy to have it tied up then he would definately choose to do that, but right now he thinks he should have it cut, even if he doesnt want to.

I have a meeting with his head of house on the INSET day before school starts, to talk about how his transition can be made easy given his ASD, so this will certainly be a topic I will be raising and bringing in his sensory issues and anxieties - maybe get it trimmed a bit today and wait until after the meeting to see if there is some concession to be made given how upsetting he is finding it all

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Nikephorus · 29/08/2017 11:13

Thing is, it's all well & good saying that it's sexist etc. but if that's the rule & all the boys follow it then if they agree he doesn't have to he will stick out like a sore thumb & that could be worse as a long-term thing. Could you have it trimmed a couple of times before so that it's a bit shorter than normal at first to get used to, and then shorter still (and meeting the rules) when he's got used to the idea? You need to keep the school on side at this point so I'd save the sexist part till later when he's settled in.

jaseyraex · 29/08/2017 12:25

Your son is absolutely right! What a ridiculous rule. I hope you fight it and get a positive outcome. Some boys like long hair, so what? My OH has gorgeous long hair, sits just under his shoulder blades. He ties it up for work. He's an area manager for a big retail company and even has visible piercings gasp and not once has long bloody hair ever compromised his ability to learn or work. How are schools still sexist in this day and age?

OSETmum · 29/08/2017 12:41

Your son sounds very mature and articulate. He's also showing a great deal of strength, he sounds like a lovely boy!

If he's come to the decision that he's going to get it done, I'd let him, it must have been a tough decision and it sounds like he's got it sorted out in his head. He can have the compromise style and then he can always grow it back.

OSETmum · 29/08/2017 12:41

I agree it's a stupid rule though!

Schroedingerscatagain · 29/08/2017 13:00

Hi op

Apart from the hair I could be you just 2 years ago

DD spectacularly failed to transition and ended up suicidal, with DS we took a year to prepare him, like your son he is gentle kind and a thinker he just got over the hair thing a bit younger

I think he is quite wise, we felt the best way to not be a target and stand out was to look like everyone else

That doesn't mean he has to have short short hair, there must be a compromise length that will help him to stay an individual but conform just enough

Hopefully like our DS he will settle well and you will feel more reassured that just because one of your dc had problems the other can be just fine

Spudlet · 29/08/2017 13:06

Am I right in thinking that Sikh men and boys are required to keep their hair long? So this stupid rule isn't just sexist, it's also religious discrimination and / or racist. And bullshit, also.

Hair tidy, tied back etc, fine, natural colours only ok - but I don't see what damage long hair does so long as it's neatly tied back.

GoodMorning1 · 29/08/2017 13:13

I wouldn't go for the haircut until you've spoken to the teacher at the INSET day meeting you mention. You might be sbke to negotiate something.

Once he has settled in he should see if his male friends will join him in growing their hair in protest! Like those boys who wore skirts to school and were all over the newspapers. It's a really stupid rilr.

PollyFlint · 29/08/2017 14:32

Pupils hair must be tidy and free of all styling agents. Hair must be off the face and of a conventional style and one natural colour. There should be no dramatic difference in length between the sides and top. Hair extensions are not allowed. Boys must be clean shaven; their hair should be above the collar and not less than a grade 2 cut

This is massively sexist. Absolutely fine to insist that long hair is tied back, but not fine to say that girls can have long hair and boys can't. Moreover, the hair length and the insistence on being clean-shaven could discriminate against boys who observe religious customs with regards to hair cutting and beards.

I would add that it's also ridiculous to insist on hair being 'free of styling agents' and yet also tidy and off the face, when for some kids a styling agent of some sort is probably the only thing that will keep their hair looking neat. Are they going to take swabs to detect whether someone's got a bit of Ellnett on, ffs?

Notreallyarsed · 29/08/2017 14:35

That school sounds way over the top with specific appearance rules tbh. And with your son's dx and the clear distress it is causing him could you ask them to make "reasonable adjustments", i.e. not force the issue since it is clearly causing severe distress? I'm sure it would be covered under the disability discrimination laws.

KimmySchmidt1 · 29/08/2017 14:38

Can you position it as learning a skill in compromise? Like when he grows up he won't be able to go to work in an office wearing a clown suit or a bikini. This is the same thing - sometimes to get what we want we have to compromise a bit, and that is a good skill to learn - to realise that something we are fanatical about doesn't really mean much after all and giving it up gets us what we really want, which is much more important.

KimmySchmidt1 · 29/08/2017 14:38

"There should be no dramatic difference in length between the sides and top"

Well at least theyve banned mullets.

Maelstrop · 29/08/2017 14:43

I was kind of on board with the school rule until I saw this bit: 'Pupils hair must be tidy and free of all styling agents. Seriously? I have extremely curly hair which turns into a complete mess if I don't use a ton of product. That's madly OTT.

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