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AIBU?

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To not be able to forgive my brother for not coming to my wedding

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SadLittleSister · 27/08/2017 01:19

NC because this is hella outing. It's a long one I'm afraid, don't want to drip feed.

Back story - my DB and DM have been NC for several years. Nothing at all to do with me and I've done my best to stay neutral and keep out of it- neither of them have showered themselves in glory though, and he also doesn't speak to anyone on her side of the family. They both have MH issues- he's bipolar, has overdosed and cut himself on several occasions, is on some pretty hardcore meds and has a serious drinking problem. She has severe anxiety depression, is also on a shitload of meds and pretty much never leaves her flat. For what it's worth, I also have depression and am on antidepressants myself.

My Dad died of cancer almost 3 years ago. He and my DM divorced when I was very young but they were civil to each other, in touch via text and she came with me when I went to see him once. He even spoke to my DB for her to try and get him to bury the hatchet a few times, to no avail.

I haven't seen my DB since the day of my Dad's funeral. We live a fair distance apart (I'm in London, he's in Cheshire) he's never invited me to go and visit him (we can't invite him here as we have a 1 bed flat and he has 4 DC) and the one time he's been down here to visit family I was away at a festival. I pretty much never hear from him - I send cards and gifts for all his DC's birthdays (including the nephew I've never seen) and at Christmas, but on my 30th bday all I got from him was a text message (I could go on about the huge effort I made for his 30th but if I start down that road this post will be twice as long) and a facebook comment when I got engaged.

DH and I sent out our save the dates last year, and in January I txt him and asked if he was planning to come. His response was "To be honest I don't think I can. I know all of Mum's side will be there who have never really seen eye to eye with me (this isn't strictly true- when he first developed a drinking problem my DM's sister offered to pay for him to learn to drive if he sought help, and has tried to reach out to him on DM's behalf a few times, but there's no animosity from them towards him) "I will never ever speak to Mum again after that comment about XXXXXX (his eldest DD- my Mum made a very thoughtless comment to DB's ex about her weight) "I honestly would have been proud to give you away but I can't make myself ill with the worry. Maybe if Mum hadn't come out with the comment about XXXXXX I'd have come, but I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. What would you like me to do?? Xx. I do love you, you are my sister xx"

I told him I thought it was a shame and I'd been hoping his DDs would be my flower girls, but I would never make him come if he didn't want to.

That was the last we spoke of it until he txt me in April asking if we'd done our table plans yet. I said we hadn't, and he said "I would like to come. For you nobody else just me and GF no kids. Xox"

It turned out my Aunt (Dad's sister) had talked him into it, saying he'd regret it if he didn't come. I felt a bit wounded at the fact that he basically had to be browbeaten into changing his mind, but I was thrilled he would be coming.

Fast forward to 12 days before the wedding. I txt him asking if he fancied a wedding task- I was planning to ask him if he would sign the register/marriage certficates as my witness. He replied "I don't know. I don't have the money to come down and me and GF have split up." It turned out they'd broken up about 6 weeks before but had kept it quiet as they have 2 of his 4 DC together and were trying to deal with it as smoothly as possible for them. Fair enough. He said the reason he had no money was because he'd changed jobs and hadn't been paid by the new job yet. I couldn't afford to lend him any money myself but said that if we spoke to some of the family they'd be sure to help him out like they always do. He didn't respond, and I didn't hear from him any more about it.

Needless to say, he didn't come. On the day my Aunt (the one who got him to change his mind the first time) told me how disappointed she was that he wasn't there. I told her what he'd said to me about not having the money etc, and she said she'd given him the money to come down (as I suspected she might) but in the end, it was his issue with my DM that kept him away. He sent me a text message on the morning of the wedding, and we got a card in the post two weeks later.

I wasn't that surprised at the time and blithely accepted it, but as time has gone on it's upset me more and more. Since our Dad died, aside from my DH he is supposed to be the closest man in my life, and yet everything indicates that actually he doesn't give a shit about me. I never get any thanks or even acknowledgement when I send gifts for his kids, I don't hear from him on my birthday or at Christmas and I'm hurt and angry that he couldn't put his shit with our DM aside for 11 hours on my wedding day for my sake. It's not like they'd have been thrown together- there were 120 other people there and my Dad's side of the family is more than twice as many people as my DM's, so he'd have had a more than adequate buffer. My DM was equally as worried and apprehensive about seeing him, but had accepted it and was prepared to be civil and give him a wide berth for my sake. He hasn't actually apologised for it, to be honest I don't think it's even occurred to him that it might have upset me.

I love him but I feel so hurt and angry and let down, and I don't know how to get past it.

OP posts:
Nikephorus · 28/08/2017 14:22

I wanted to be important enough for him to put his own feelings aside, for one day
I don't think it's anywhere that simple. He has MH issues, split up from his GF just before & changed jobs. You do realise that, even without the issues around your DM, they're some of the most stressful things to deal with. It sounds like he intended to be there but given the way his life was going he couldn't face it after all. I'd be feeling sympathetic after the initial disappointment, not resentful.

Italiangreyhound · 28/08/2017 15:04

OP don't you if you are reading still but if you, please 're-read your own words....."I wanted to be important enough for him to put his own feelings aside, for one day. But I just wasn't, and I never will be."

It's not that you are not important enough. He is unable to.

Deal with your own issues, work on your own life.

Visit him if you wish to. See nieces and nephews if you choose. Don't send presents if you don't want to. If you want to build relationships with these kids can you visit before Christmas or birthdays sometimes and focus on them.

I think you need to forgive your brother and move on. Your anger or upset will not solve this situation and you will not be able to change his side of it. The only part you can control is your response to it.

Good luck.

melj1213 · 29/08/2017 02:25

I'm sorry you choose to see my post as making you out to be a "selfish bitch" but all I did was call out your unreasonable expectations on the thread you posted on the "Am I Being Unreasonable" forum ... if you didn't want to be told the cold hard truth you shouldn't have posted.

How can you say I don't care?! Of course I care about him. But yes, I wanted his little sister to be important to him. I don't think that's such a tall order.

You care about him, but not enough to accept that perhaps his MH comes before you and that he had a good reason not to attend your wedding.

He couldn't attend your wedding because he was going through some serious issues of his own - his MH issues, his issues with being NC with your mother, his recent relationship breakdown, his DC, his drinking - it's not like he fucked your wedding off because Johnno down the street invited him for a piss up because it was a day ending in -y.

You want to be important to him, but you can't force him to see you as important or not, any more than he can force you to understand why he doesn't hold the same importance level wrt your relationship level.

What an absurdly insensitive comment. I have made no such demand on him. I haven't seen him for nearly 3 years, so how could I?? I wasn't even going to ask him to give me away and never intended to- he made that assumption by himself.

You say you didn't demand he take on the specific role of "man of the family" but ... (from your own OP) ^"Since our Dad died, aside from my DH he is supposed to be the closest man in my life, and yet everything indicates that actually he doesn't give a shit about me."

You have decided he is supposed to be the closest man in your life, but he has no obligation to take on that role especially if he feels that his MH is helped to distance himself somewhat to deal with his own family.

I sent a present to a niece 2 days late once and he gave me absolute shit for it. I don't think at least a "thank you" is too much to ask for making the effort.

Again, "Thank you" is polite but you can't put the onus of your effort onto him because he didn't react the way you want him to. Either put in the effort knowing he is not bothered and expecting nothing in return, or stop putting the effort in and accept he isn't bothered either way.

And leave her to deal with all her issues completely alone? What kind of daughter would I be if I did that?

That is your choice though, you have decided that you want to be the "dutiful daughter" but are martyring yourself because of it ... that is your choice. You can support your mother without taking responsibility for her, and if you do you can't complain that your brother has left you to deal with her when all he has done is exercise his right to take a step back from dealing with someone that clearly affects his MH negatively.

As I said, I've made no demands on him. I didn't expect anything.

You wanted to manipulate his feelings to make yourself important to him.

You wanted him to "suck up" his MH issues for your wedding.

You wanted him to suck up his issues with your DM for the sake of you and your wedding

You expect him to apologise for putting his MH/DC/addiction/relationship issues above your special day

You expect him to be grateful and reciprocate the effort you put in to sending gifts/keeping in contact etc despite the fact he had repeatedly made it clear he has no intent to change his behaviour.

You expect him to apologise for not putting you before everything else to attend your wedding (despite the fact you were aware of all the issues he would have to overcome to attend.

I'm gonna back away from this thread now. I have MH issues myself and thanks to Melj's response I feel even more like shit now than I did before. To the rest, thanks for understanding.

I apologise if what I said made you feel shit, that was not my intention but I will not apologise for not sugar coating my response to your question of "AIBU?" when the answer, imho is "Yes you are".

And if you feel like you have to take a step back because your MH has been affected by being confronted by somebody giving you their opinions maybe you need to consider that your brother felt exactly the same way when you tried to prioritise your want for him to be at your wedding over his wishes and he did exactly the same thing and took himself out of the situation and chose not to attend.

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