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To want to move up North in my situation?

268 replies

Barefootsummers · 22/08/2017 14:14

We have 2 children and would love a bigger family. We currently live in the south east in our own home which is a small 2/3 bed flat with no garden. Up North we could afford a detached house with small amount of land (550k). Thinking West Yorkshire. I love the countryside and this lifestyle rather than fancy restaurants / boutiques etc. We could work in similar jobs up North. It's a no brainer for me but my DH is not convinced. His reasons against are that the housing market is always secure in the south east, schooling is better and it affords more opportunity. I guess I'm not looking for anyone to tell me what I should or shouldn't do but just need some perspective on this. Anyone? Thanks in advance!

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ThroughThickAndThin01 · 22/08/2017 14:40

Lovely houses Blonde

Lucyccfc · 22/08/2017 14:41

Have a look at Harrogate and Boston Spa near Wetherby. More pricey than Leeds but lovely.

Barefootsummers · 22/08/2017 14:42

Thank you. Great to hear from people who've done it and had a happy outcome! Will check out the areas mentioned. Thanks again

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TheNaze73 · 22/08/2017 14:43

I moved out of London to Harrogate for 6 months & hated it. Glad I did a trial though. Everyone will be different though, so good luck

x2boys · 22/08/2017 14:46

The North is a large place Teacakes and I,m sure many parts of the South are rough too Hmm the north is great Op but Lancashire is better than Yorkshire Wink

Hoppinggreen · 22/08/2017 14:51

Come to Huddersfield - we have a Premier league football team you know!!!
We live in HD3. 5 minutes drive to the motorway for easy access to Leeds and Manchester. Beautiful countryside within minutes as well.
2 award winning restaurants in the local village and fancy new hotel/restaurant opening soon
We have a large 4 bed detached house with a big garden, which would probably be worth about £350000 now if we wanted to sell
Excellent local Primary schools both state and Private and the same for Secondary
Very Multicultural and good art scene as well
Admittedly the Town centre in grotty in parts but huge amounts of money are being pumped in and a ski slope and new cinema are planned
Love it here

Birdsgottafly · 22/08/2017 14:52

"I've sometimes considered it but you have to consider why it's cheaper. If it was so great, wouldn't everyone move?"

It's the lack of stable employment. If you can get employment Up-North, then it makes economic/lifestyle sense to move.

Depending on the job that you want and the wages that you are willing to work for, getting a job isn't an issue.

I travel to London a lot to see shows, but if I lived down there, I wouldn't be able to afford to have the lifestyle I have now.

x2boys · 22/08/2017 14:53

A Facebook friend lives in Hebden Bridge it does look lovely.

LuItaliana · 22/08/2017 15:07

I know how you feel OP we live in the SE in a tiny 2 bed terrace house, I know we could get something much bigger & nicer if we moved somewhere else but we just don't know where/what area's are nice etc I also worry about not having any family/friends near, it's a tough decision Confused

BitOutOfPractice · 22/08/2017 15:24

Schooling is better? How does he work that out? All Schools south of the Watford Gap are better than all schools to the north? What utter tosh!

acquiescence · 22/08/2017 16:14

Do it! We live in Sheffield and it is a lovely city. I am from the south west and would never consider living back, my quality of life would significantly decrease. Have a look at the villages into the Peak District, you can commute easily to Sheffield or Manchester.

Bekabeech · 22/08/2017 16:17

If you can get jobs - then why not?
We'd have almost certainly gone if it wasn't for careers in the SE.

PNGirl · 22/08/2017 16:22

Seconding Huddersfield - I lived there from age 5 to 19. Amazing place - countryside, close to Leeds and Manchester, good people.

Don't move to Bradford. It's cheap for a reason.

JacquesHammer · 22/08/2017 16:31

Don't move to Bradford. It's cheap for a reason

The Bradford postcode is massive though. There's a difference between some of the areas still in a BD postcode and inner city Bradford

dailyshite · 22/08/2017 16:37

Two of the reasons I moved from Cambridge to Yorkshire were the weather and scenery - it's so bland down south, you get proper seasons up here and the scenery is really diverse.

There are rough areas, like anywhere (I went to Croydon - or Crawley - a couple of years ago, didn't dare stop!), Luton and Stevenage and bits of Kent are awful IMHO - although I know that there are nice areas of everywhere, same as up here.

Culture, in the sense of values / social behaviours / characteristics (as opposed to touristy arts centres) is more diverse up here in my experience too which I love, but one aspect of that can be a chippiness about how the region is perceived / treated. If you move to South West Yorkshire don't mention the Miner's Strike!

PickingOakum · 22/08/2017 16:38

I was born and brought up in West Yorkshire and came back to live here after over a decade in London.

In all honesty, I think the North provides more opportunities than the South East, but people often don't recognise this because they perceive "opportunities" in a rather specific cultural and economic way: usually career-related in terms of earnings and jobs, or culturally-related in terms of art galleries and theatres.

But what the North provides are opportunities of space, financial freedom and quality of life if you do your research and choose where you live carefully. It is possible in W.Yorks to buy a large house (four beds +) on a decent sized plot in a lovely area and get change from £300k, for example. It is possible for a couple with a child to earn a combined household income of £45k, and still be able to run a car and have a holiday every year. You can also live a "slower life" in the North because there's not so much pressure on earning a living just to cover the basics.

Personally, I wouldn't move to Hebden Bridge, even though generations of my DF's family are from there. It can be a bit insular, and I prefer a more mixed bag of folk (even though I am pretty crunchy myself). Plus the housing is more expensive, there's only one road in and out of the centre, and parking is a nightmare because so many of the properties are pre-war builds. It's worth looking at the Calder Valley as a whole and having a scout around to see what areas you really like.

"I've sometimes considered it but you have to consider why it's cheaper. If it was so great, wouldn't everyone move?"

To be fair, a lot of people have. There's a very noticeable reverse brain drain going on from the South East to the North now, as so many people under 45 are being priced out of London and the South East. Also a lot of people are looking for community, that sense of belonging to a place, having a local, neighbours that say hello ... that sort of thing ... and you can still find that in parts of the North.

thekillers · 22/08/2017 16:43

You won't get a house with land near leeds or harrogate for that amount

Once you move north you will never afford to move south again- so consider that.

Barefootsummers · 22/08/2017 16:52

Thank you, so much to consider! I think DH is worried about the not being able to return to the se if things went belly up as the house prices are so different. Also, we have lots of gay friends and are quite eccentric ourselves so I think he worries it won't be so open minded, hence me suggesting Hebden area (not hebden itself but the areas close by). I really think we could live better and would have a lot more disposable income to do fun stuff and not putting everything into mortgage and bills. For example, our area to move to a 3 bed terrace with small garden will cost 750k and a detached 3 bed with small garden costs 800k min upwards, it's obscene. Going to go for a visit soon and see what he thinks when he sees a few houses that would be options! Thanks again everyone.

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thekillers · 22/08/2017 16:53

I love Leeds! Just be careful where you buy really, Headingley, Roundhay, Alwoodley, Lawnswood, Adel are all nice and you could get such a nice house for that price!

No state primary school places though. Wouldn't get a house with land for £550k

PNGirl · 22/08/2017 16:59

I was born in Low Moor in Bradford and we moved to Huddersfield because the schools were so much better.

BikeRunSki · 22/08/2017 16:59

I don't discriminate between HD postcodes Hopping. 8 is clearly best.

LakieLady · 22/08/2017 17:01

My only reservation with moving would be the difficulty of moving back if you found you didn't like it, especially if house prices start to climb again in the south-east.

Why not give it a no-risk trial by renting out your house down here and renting up there for a while, to make sure you like it? The rent on your place should cover the rent up there.

Alicetherabbit · 22/08/2017 17:06

Move up north, there are more of Stedham outstanding than in the area of se London I lived, we are actually looking at a private school and it offers a much better value for money than wrap around care had dd gone to state school in London. Difference is about £1k per year.
London is amazing, but it's so crowded these days

dailyshite · 22/08/2017 17:09

we have lots of gay friends and are quite eccentric ourselves so I think he worries it won't be so open minded

Really? I have found people much more accepting of 'difference' up here than down there. There are obviously some people who are stuck in their ways, same as anywhere, but when I go back down south to visit family I'm struck by the homogeneity of the place. Literally, having a different accent is worthy of comment down south whereas no-one gives a shit up here.

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 22/08/2017 17:09

Just rude and ill informed Teacake. Not aware that education is any better down south. Attitudes like that just re-inforce North/south divides, sadly.

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