To think 'station-stop' is correct, despite what the pedants say!

[BoysofMelody]

On the train to Manchester and the announcer stated that 'The next station-stop will be Dewsbury'.

This grinds the gears of those of a pedantic disposition, who claim that it is a tautology and either Station or stop will suffice.

However the train will pass through several smaller stations without stopping (so the next station is not Dewsbury)

It will stopped by a signal to allow a faster train to pass before it reaches Dewsbury (so the first stop is not Dewsbury)

Therefore 'The next station-stop is Dewsbury' is correct.

I've no idea!

I understand what you mean, I've been on trains like that

I agree although I think your logic is the wrong way round. Trains often stop because they're waiting for a slow moving train ahead to get out of the way etc, that might be a stop but it's not a station stop.
If they said the next stop was Huddersfield and the train then stopped for that, people would accuse them of lying

Sorry you did say that just second.

I agree with you Boys

I was having the exact same thought about the station-stop thing. It really annoys me. Where else would you be stopping but in a station!

Where else would you be stopping but in a station

At a signal.

"The next station we'll be stopping at is Dewsbury" has the advantage of being accurate and human.

I mean as in an actual stop where you can get off. Not just a signal.

Oh I love "the next station stop will be...". It's undoubtedly an odd turn of phrase but there's a 1950s charm to it. And yes, I think it is correct.

Or just waiting for a slow train ahead to move
Or stopping to pull a mangled bird out of some essential train bit

Sometimes it stops and it's not at a station. Sometimes it goes through a station but doesn't stop. A station-stop combines both criteria and I agree it is technically correct. It took me a while to work it out but when I did it stopped bothering me!

But the train has come to a stop.

It's because in some languages stop is used as it is here, and others will be listening for the word station, so it alerts the most people to listen because the station name it is stopping at will be mentioned...

Northern Rail BoysofMelody ? They say that on trains here too. It irritates me, but if the trains are running vaguely to schedule I'm able to get passed it

Trans Pennine Express!

Or really doesn't have a fifties ring to it, it's a much more modern phrase.

And the reason it jars tips because it really isn't much used (if at all) in ordinary speech. It's fairly recent jargon. Announcements used to be along the lines described by EastMidsMummy or "we are now approaching XX" or "service to ACC, stopping at D, E and F'

I wouldn't take 'station stop' to mean the next station we are stopping at as opposed to the next station we pass and more than the next 'station' or the next 'traib station'. I would just assume someone has confused bus stop with train station,

'Please ensure you take your personal belongings with you...'

My 'personal' belongings. As opposed to...what? I haven't brought anyone else's. And if I had I'd need to take those too.

Apologies for slight tangent.

I had never imagined it to be hyphenated?

A stop can be any point at which the train stops. There are stops which aren't stations, such as staff halts and depots and certain signals/junctions. So, to say 'the next stop is [eg] Crewe' is not necessarily correct, because there might well be stops between now and Crewe which aren't stations and where you can't get on or off the train. So to say 'the next stop...' just confuses people who then start getting their luggage down off the rack when the train stops, even though it's not actually at a station and they're not able to disembark there.

To say 'the next station is [eg] is also not necessarily correct, because there might well be stations between now and Crewe where the train isn't actually stopping - and to tell people what the non-stopping stations are is obviously of no use to anyone.

So, in most cases 'the next station stop' is in fact the most accurate and least ambiguous way of describing the next point in the journey at which people can leave or board the train.

I realise that's incredibly boring, but I used to work in public transport and we got asked that question all the time.

Sounds awkward to me. Maybe someone complained. I also dislike 'mind the gap between the train and the platform', which has taken all the fun out of that announcement.

It is correct, though clunky and if you think MN has its fair share of pedants you really should drop by your friendly local train operator sometime. I was once in a position to try and modernise train announcements, got my arse handed to me on a plate.

I always assumed the meaning to be as described by the op, and that it was a relic of the days when you could open the train doors by leaning out of the window - just reminding people that they should check that they are actually at a station before doing so. I find it rather clunky and unnecessarily pedantic given that there is no danger of this happening nowadays - I think 'the next station... ' (or 'the next stop...') is clear enough given the context, and sounds so much better.