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To have no idea what to do about my alcoholic brother...

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AprilAndAndy · 21/08/2017 00:32

My younger brother is an alcoholic - he's 31 and relatively high functioning in the sense he's not on a park bench drinking at 10am. He's a lovely guy, but his alcoholism makes him irresponsible and selfish.

He has a job (although zero hours - often only works a couple of days per week) but drinks every day in the pub, he does this by borrowing money from friends.

He has never had a social life outside of the local pub, a girlfriend or the things that one might expect somebody of his age to have. He's had his job for about a year - before that, he'd never really worked.

He lived with our other brother until about six months ago, when he (other brother) got so fed up with him, he chucked him out and now he's in my spare room. He's lived with me before and it was problematic, but I felt I had to take him in, due to feeling sorry for him and pressure from my family as we have space for him.

He doesn't do any housework (though to be fair, he doesn't make much mess) and he pays us seventy quid per week housekeeping - this includes all bills and food. I usually make him dinner, otherwise he doesn't eat. He's painfully skinny, he doesn't shower often and is quite dirty and unkempt. Our spare room smells awful now. As you can imagine, my partner is not very keen on him.

He's sometimes drunk around my kids (age 12 and 15). Tonight my daughter (12) is having a sleepover with a friend. They were being quite noisy so I went downstairs to tell them to quieten down and found him back from the pub, drunk and running around the front room with them.

The fact that he doesn't get that this is really inappropriate has worried me.

I think I've honestly done all I can for him and it's getting to a point where I can't have him here any more. He can't afford his own place, I don't think the council would house him - he would be a homeless alcoholic and I'm worried he would go down hill.

My partner is in AA and says he needs to hit bottom before he will get better - we both know deep down that him living here with us is just allowing him to continue drinking for longer.

To complicate matters further, our dad (who lived here with us too) recently died and we're all struggling with our grief. It's early days still and I don't want to be heartless.

Should I hang on for a few more months? Should I try to just love and support and guide him through this? Should I start putting his house keeping away until it's enough for a deposit on a flat? (Although I don't think he'll cope with bilks etc) Should I just chuck him out and let him hit bottom?

I genuinely don't know what to do for the best.

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SenatorBunghole · 21/08/2017 11:00

That's good. So now you know. That's the first step. The next is, what are you going to do about it?

BeautyGoesToBenidorm · 21/08/2017 11:12

All alcoholics are functioning, until they're not. 'Functioning' is purely another stage of the descent.

Can you get him to see a GP? The extreme weight loss tells me he's not 'getting away with it at the moment', when it comes to his health. Does he eat?

hedgebitch · 21/08/2017 13:21

You know that letting him stay a few more months will just mean the same situation goes on for a few more months. He's not going to undergo a spontaneous transformation. You've let him stay, it didn't help. You tried setting ground rules, it didn't help.

I don't think you want this level of alcohol consumption to be normalised for your kids. 12 and 15 year olds will be coming into contact with alcohol - I think you need to show them that this isn't an OK way to drink.

It must feel so hard to bite the bullet and make a decision. But the choice at present is to get him out of your house or to have him continue his descent indefinitely in your family home.

AprilAndAndy · 21/08/2017 13:38

Next step...GP appointment? If he will come?

Next step for getting him out of my house...I don't know. I'm struggling to imagine putting his stuff outside in bags and shutting the door. Nobody else we know will take him in - except maybe pub friends?

Maybe give him enough money for deposit/first months rent in a shared house?

Maybe call the council and see if they could house him?

I've just read all that back and realise that I'm still trying to do everything for him.

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AprilAndAndy · 21/08/2017 13:39

Beauty - he doesn't eat much. He's always been skinny so no weight loss as such - but most of his food consumption goes on early in the day. I think this is to get drunk faster and for less money.

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TiramisuQueenoftheFaeries · 21/08/2017 13:49

April - with respect and sympathy -

It isn't up to you where he goes. That is his problem to solve. 'sorting out' where he goes next is more enabling.

There is nothing you can do for him any more other than stop enabling his drinking. As a pp says you might as well be handing him the bottle. The only people you can do anything for are yourself and your partner and children. All of you need him out.

I know the idea of telling him he has to find somewhere else to live, and if necessary kicking him out with some force, is very hard, but please steel yourself to it. Your children need you to - and so does your brother, in a different way.

Windbeneathmybingowings · 21/08/2017 13:50

I'm glad you are taking steps to get him away from the children. I grew up in a house with an addict and we would come home from school to find DM naked sprawled in the hallway. We'd just make our dinner with whatever scraps there were in the house and step over her as we had no other adult in the house. It was incredibly damaging and I refuse to drink at home at all now, even at Christmas or new year.

You have to protect your children before your brother.

BastardGoDarkly · 21/08/2017 13:59

If you can afford a deposit and a months rent, do that, find a room /bedsit that takes housing benefit (he should quality with the hours he does) then tell him that's what you're doing. He can't stay, but I so understand your turmoil Flowers

chosenone · 21/08/2017 14:01

I feel for you Flowers
I had a similar situation with my younger brother but his addiction was drugs. It is the route to madness and I ended up seeking counselling and realising I needed to 'release with love. No big drama or did comment just the message that his life choices were upsetting and I was 'enabling these choices when offering him financial support. The main thing I learnt is the 3 Cs. I didn't cause it, I can't control it and I can't cure it.
Look after yourself and your family.

AprilAndAndy · 21/08/2017 14:33

Thank you all for sharing your experiences. It's horrible but I've got a feeling to 'detach with love' is going to be our only option.

I think my first step is going to be to get him to stay with our other brother for this week.

Then I guess a serious conversation about a time line for moving out.

Maybe I'll offer some help but try to leave the responsibility of finding somewhere to him.

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BastardGoDarkly · 21/08/2017 14:53

Don't be tempted to hand over cash on his saying he's found somewhere though will you?

UKrider · 21/08/2017 15:47

I'm glad you mentioned al anon and you're contacting them.

Whatever he does or doesn't do al anon is there for you. The understanding you'll gain will be profound.

I also took part in al anon events when I was a kid. As you mention your children they may also get something out of it. My involvement with al anon has stood me in good stead even as an adult.

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