...to start a campaign for more women's toilets?

[MrsMuddlePluck]

We are now in the 21st century so why do women still tolerate queues for loos? You all know what it's like to be busting for a p & watching the lads go in & out in 30secs while you wait 15 minutes just to get in the door.

This is still happening in new buildings & shopping centres. Why? It doesn't take a brain surgeon to work this out surely?

I was at legoland last week on a very busy day and never had to wait more than a couple of minutes to use the toilets.

I am normally in and out quite quick.

I have never understood why most woman spend an age in the toilets!

Female urinals exist but have not been popularised. We should have them installed in our toilets, that way women would at least have the same choice men have. It would not be something I'd like to do, but then if I were desperate who knows!

Of course all this could be solved once people are allowed to use the toilets of whichever gender they identify with - just say you feel like a man today, and nip into the gents! I know a lot of people don't feel comfortable with this but considering the other big changes to our society's way of thinking that have occurred in the past few decades, it's only a matter of time I think.

No way would I use female urinals. I don't want to pull my trousers down in front of others. I don't want to stand in a sea of piss where people kept missing and as you have already had to pull the trousers down, they too will also be covered in piss from the floor (and me potentially missing).

Increasing the ladies cubicles will take some pressure off the disabled toilets for those that need the speedy access, rather than the space inside.

I was pondering this when we visited a car showroom. There were two toilet cubicles: one for women + disabled, the other for men. So, basically, able-bodied men got their own dedicated cublicle, and everybody else had to share. Struck me as wrong on every level.

Having just one, all-purpose, cubicle doesn't bother me. But making men special? #EverydaySexism.

FWIW, these are female urinals and they're very popular abroad. I've never had an issue using them - I think they're brilliant. Never stood in a puddle of pee either (and neither has DP!) - most toilets these days are insanely well looked after.

Which way do you approach those?

Ew... even a for just a wee, don't women always need a bit of a wipe?and unless you're wearing a fullish skirt and no knickers, I can't see what advantage they could have over a normal loo.

I just couldn't wee with everyone watching yuk. I actually feel sorry for the lack of privacy men have in tolits maybe they don't want to get their dick out in front of other men!.

But shy blokes can just go in a cubicle if they want, they don't have to use the urinals. My guess is that if those female urinals were installed in the uk, they would not get much use.

I think women are taking longer in public toilets these days, and I think they sit checking their phones ..... I have noticed women coming out of the cubicles with phones in hand .....☹️

BabychamSocialist these particular boys were not in nappies. Probably 4 5 6?

I have come out a cubicle holding my phone. No I was not checking it in the cubicle. I was though in the long queue to get there.
I don't know why anyone can not understand that women having periods, means they have to go to the toilet more often, and will take longer when they get there. Plus children seem to mainly go to the women's toilets.
Instead there is always blaming of women. Instead of just accepting that yes we need more toilets.

Women taking longer in cubicles could be doing so for many reasons - IBS issues for example, as well as periods. Or perhaps they have a stoma (obviously some of these things could be true for men too). I can't imagine anyone spending longer in a public toilet than they would need to - hardly a fun place to hang around? PPs commenting on noticing particular individuals taking longer than they themselves did have no idea what (invisible) issues people may be dealing with when visiting the toilets.

To those saying they dont understand why some women take so long, a fair number of women have physical medical issues. Womens bladders have less support than a males and are often smaller and have less room so we typically pee more often and are more prone to physical issues. So those who have issues fully emptying (can happen with prolapse cases or just aging and weakness in pelvic floor) those having to change sanitary wear for periods/incontinence issues, the need to wipe, and al the potrntial invisible reasons like stomas, physical injury, joint pain sitting and standing, and im sure theres more.
Not everyone is only going for a wee, unlike men who dont need to sit down to wee women sometimes dont get a choice to only wee once they sit down.
Add the BASTARD HOVERERS!!!!! Nobody who sits down properly pisses on the seat/floor, they are the ones who cause the problem in the first place then leave their mess.
And uk/western women are generally shy about using the loo. Worried about making noises or smells, some struggle to go even if they need to desperately with people about.
Im much more worried about the lack of accessable toilets. One disabled loo is not enough! Some disabled people take a long time to go because of their disability (myself included) and some have severe urgency problems (also myself included) who cannot wait but will struggle if theyre even able at all to use regular loos. Theres only a legal obligation to provide one disabled toilet, but there are lots of both visibly and invisibly disabled people who could end up needing them at the same time. The times i have to go im panicking another disabled person will come along needing the loo im in and wont be able to wait. (It takes me 20+ minutes due to physical issues and severe ocd so it is very ritualised) Ofc theres also the fear im the one stuck unable to wait, so im mostly housebound out of the pure lack of accessible toilet facilities suitable for me.
Its just not good enough.

Most of the time female loos are full of 5-10 yo male children who for some reason 'can't' go to the mens. If we had mandatory under 12s kids loos, with kids being banned from the ladies and gents, I bet the queues would go down.

If there's no queue in the mens then go in the mens and head for a cubicle. Lord knows I've done it and as long as you do it with confidence and don't do anything weird like stare then nobody's arsed.