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Do you let your kids sing at the top of their voices outside at 7.30am?

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hiveofactivity · 16/08/2017 06:54

No? Me neither.
Sadly the family in tent next to us does. All other tents are zipped up with people trying to sleep. Why are some people so clueless?

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Winterview · 16/08/2017 08:16

7:30 doesn't sound that late for camping mornings. We used to get up at 6am to beat the queue for showers, loos etc and lots of people were up around the same time, talking and having breakfast.

Although I wouldn't take my toddler camping yet, she likes to shriek and make dragon noises at 5am!

AyUpMiDuck · 16/08/2017 08:17

I feel your pain!
How about some totally unsuitable toffee? Or earplugs.

My neighbours are lovely except for the 5 long minutes every weekday morning at 7.30 am and Saturday at 8 am when they corral their little girls out of the house and into the car for nursery/ school/ ballet. There's a lot of door slamming, to-ing and fro-ing and Very Loud conversations right below my bedroom window and it hacks me off big time because I am a very light sleeper and prefer to wake up when I have finished sleeping. I don't think they have any idea how loud they are and I don't want a confrontation because they are lovely in every other way. # Sucking it up. # first world problems #ear plugs

grasspigeons · 16/08/2017 08:18

In uk sites, my noisy children wake up early. They know not to wake up everyone else. We basically feed them so it keeps their mouths busy.

megletthesecond · 16/08/2017 08:20

This is why we would never camp again. DD started having a tantrum at 2 am when it rained. It's hard enough to keep her calm in a house let alone a tent.

LaContessaDiPlump · 16/08/2017 08:35

Away do you think we haven't tried that?!

Sorry, sounding a tad hysterical there. It is incredibly frustrating having persistently noisy children when you desperately want everything to be QUIET. DH thinks it's fine, so no help there Hmm

SomewhatIdiosyncratic · 16/08/2017 08:53

A gentle getting up noise will often brew up from around 7:30, but allowing children to be deliberately loud is not on. It's still a time when people will be relaxing and sleeping in.

Many years ago, some children thought jumping noisily over other people's guy lines at 6:30 was a good game. They were corrected by my friend who was concerned about the potential damage to his £££ new tent (as much as his love of sleep).

The worst one was a whingy/moany baby/toddler at sunrise at around 5 am for at least half an hour. I don't blame the toddler, they wake, they cry, but please for the love of God, do something to avoid waking the whole campsite for a prolonged period. Go in the car to stop the sound carrying, go for a walk away from zones where people are sleeping, but please don't subject the rest of the site to your child's misery for any longer than is necessary. A loud inter-tent row did break out. I remember shot guns being mentioned Confused

Camping can be a wonderful free, independent experience for families, but there is no sound proofing and it's deeply unfair to let children be loud and disruptive at times when it's reasonable for people to be sleeping.

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hiveofactivity · 16/08/2017 10:48

Should have also said they're not toddlers - youngest looks around 5/6 and the older one is nearly as tall as me.

Totally understand that very young children can't be kept quiet but letting an older children sing loudly outside at 7.30am when you're obviously surrounded by people sleeping (whether camping or not) just lacks common sense.

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OhhBetty · 16/08/2017 10:57

I wouldn’t let my child do it but equally I don't know anyone who would be expecting to sleep in on a camping holiday? 7:30 isn't early to me but I understand it is for others.

Voiceforreason · 16/08/2017 11:01

I never thought to hear someone complain about a child singing but seems most agree. How very odd? 7.30 isn't that early.

OliviaStabler · 16/08/2017 11:07

7.30 isn't that early.

For lots of people it is.

mumeeee · 16/08/2017 11:13

7.30 is early on holiday

kittybiscuits · 16/08/2017 11:14

On a campsite, it's way too early for loud children.

upperlimit · 16/08/2017 11:18

7:30 am isn't early for a camping holiday. I think that people are generally up and about at that point. I wouldn't let my kids sing and shout that early but I wouldn't be surprised if others did.

MissHavishamsleftdaffodil · 16/08/2017 21:06

7.30am may not be early to some, especially parents used to being up at sparrow fart because they have toddlers, but not everyone lives that life or wants to/has chosen to. It may be very early to others who plan to sleep later.

It's absolutely lovely for you if you're so zen that you jerk out of a deep sleep you were hoping to continue because of a child singing at the top of their lungs, and your first and only thought is 'oh how magical and charming'. I don't find other people's shrieking kids cute when I'm trying to sleep, I mostly wish their parents were less selfish.

Dina1234 · 16/08/2017 21:15

Maybe move your tent?

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hiveofactivity · 16/08/2017 21:22

I'm a bit naive as having been camping before but seriously no one is going to bed early at this French campsite. And no one is up early. They really stood out.

Maybe it's different at British campsites. We're going to bed at 10pm and we're one if the first!

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hiveofactivity · 16/08/2017 21:28

That should be haven't.

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hiveofactivity · 16/08/2017 21:30

Also I'd never let dd out to sing loudly at 7.30am at home so why now? Is it a camping thing??

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londonmummy1966 · 16/08/2017 21:39

Not normally no but my CF NDN has a massive film crew crawling all over our street until 11 pm so I am severely tempted at the moment if only to screw up the filming....

Nonagoninfinity · 16/08/2017 21:49

YANBU. This touched a nerve having just returned from a camping trip where we experienced more than our fair share of thoughtless neighbours.

On a family campsite you of course expect kids to play - that's the whole point of them, but the amount of entitled families who thought nothing of letting their kids run riot at the expense of everyone else's enjoyment was a real shock. The final straw was when our newest neighbour opined that she didn't believe that kids should be asked to turn down the volume because she wanted them to grow into confident adults. This comment was just between her and her friends but I think was meant to be heard by the rest of the campsite as some sort of justification for their entitled behaviour. Like a true Brit I solved the situation by quietly bristling to myself, then booked a cheap hotel for the last 2 nights of our holiday Blush

Catsize · 17/08/2017 08:11

Hoping the dawn chorus is a more feathery one this morning OP. 🐦

Mucky1 · 17/08/2017 08:12

My 8yo has asd and ADHD before meds he has no volume control. Last week at camping we basically spoke in varying degrees of a whisper till 8.30 constantly repeating indoor voices 🤣🤣 after that all bets were off.

BillyNotQuiteNoMates · 17/08/2017 09:11

Why does it appear to be acceptable to make a noise returning to your holiday home/ room/ tent late at night, but somehow 7.30 is too early for kids to be out playing? They were probably getting their revenge - hats off to them!

Helenluvsrob · 17/08/2017 09:20

Meh. 7.30 when camping is fine for kids to be playing out, just ask them nicely to pipe down. You do realise it's dawn at what 5.30 , so must parents have been keeping them quiet since about then!

MissHavishamsleftdaffodil · 17/08/2017 09:27

Yeah absolutely, Helen . Stuff everybody else on the planet, what do they matter? If you have to get up early because you chose to have kids, then why should anyone else get to have a lie in.

Honestly. Angry

Leaving this thread now, it's making me want to throw things.