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To think the comparisons between nurses and footballers pay are bogus!

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BoysofMelody · 14/08/2017 16:15

We have a visitor staying with us and I watching Match of the Day. After that tutting, she asked how much the players were paid? I said there was a huge range, but the average was about £40,000 a week. But the best paid earned over £250,000 a week.

Which was the cue for a moan I've heard many times before of: 'that's disgusting, do you know how many nurses that would pay for' ?

I couldn't be arsed arguing the toss and didn't want to spark a row, but it's such a bogus comparison, if footballers were paid directly from the same NHS budget as nurses they may have a point,but they aren't. If Premier League players had their salaries cut in half, it wouldn't result in a single extra nurse being employed or a single existing nurse getting a single extra penny.

Yes footballers are lavishly well paid, but they aren't paid from the public purse and are paid what the market will stand, at that very top level, those with rare skills are in demand from wealthy business across the world.

And why only footballers and nurses? No one seems to get their knickers in such a twist over the similarly lavish rewards for Formula One Drivers, Tennis and Golf players earn or pontificate on how many teachers could be employed on the basis of Rory McIlroy's earnings, or even other aspects of the entertainment industry? Why do people not get her up by how many social workers could be employed on what Daniel Craig was paid for the last Bond film?

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PhilTheSahd · 14/08/2017 22:08

SisyphusDad: do you mean compassion (rather than compression - I'm guessing that's a typo) ?

I think generally salaries do not reflect how useful or important someone is to society, or even how much the majority of people like them and what they do. Theoretically they could in some form of communist world but not in a mostly capitalist world

Butteredparsnip1ps · 14/08/2017 22:18

It's a bit like comparing everything in geography to the size of Wales.

The standard unit for measuring a large volume of water is swimming pools.

Large objects are measured in Elephants, unless we want to know their height. Then it's double decker buses.

A Nurses salary is the universal measurement of extravagance. Unfortunately (exNurse) it's not a comparison that is ever likely to lead to a pay rise.

UnderCrackers5 · 14/08/2017 22:26

I like the idea of putting Mother Theresa in goal for Everton. I mean, Jesus Saves. right? So she would be great.

Does anyone seriously think the people sit down and think 'mmm, nursing or footie ? The footie pays well, but as a compassionate double-caring over-nice person, I will apply to the NHS'

p.s. I hate football

Goldfishshoals · 14/08/2017 22:45

I agree with the op. I always hear people complaining about how much footballers and entertainers get paid, yet I never hear people saying "I'd rather taxes were higher so nurses could get paid more even if I then couldn't afford my sky sports subscription/to go to the cinema etc."

Basically it's people blaming 'society' at large, rather than considering that their own wants (wanting low taxes and thus more money to spend on frivolous sports/entertainment) are causing the situation.

SisyphusDad · 14/08/2017 23:30

Wretched auto correct. Yes, I did mean compassion!

You're right. Salaries absolutely do not reflect how useful the person is to society, merely the minimum an employer has to pay to acquire and retain that person's services.

AnneElliott · 14/08/2017 23:53

Perfectly - but the issue for me ( and others) is the fact that football requires a much higher level of policing than other sports/ events.

I don't think taxpayers resent paying for a few cops at a concert for reasons of public safety. However, requiring 400 police to stop one group of fans killing the other side is a different matter - and not a good use of scarce resources. That's what makes football different and the wages all the more obscene.

BoysofMelody · 15/08/2017 00:28

400 police to stop one group of fans killing the other side is a different matter - and not a good use of scarce resources. That's what makes football different and the wages all the more obscene

You do realise that the footballers don't own and run the clubs and they are employees of those clubs and have no say over who pays for the policing? So what their wages has to do with the issue, I don't really know.

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HelenaDove · 15/08/2017 02:00

The thing ive noticed with some entertainers and actors (not all just some) is their blind spot when it comes to the tv licence. They protest about things like the old poll tax and the bedroom tax saying its not fair on poorer people to pay things like the old poll tax for instance because everyone paid the same whatever their income. Which is true but the same is also true of the tv licence and then they seem to want to apply a completely different argument to that and say what value for money it is.

Grilledaubergines · 15/08/2017 02:16

I find it more worrying that so many footballers have been convicted of assaults, drink-driving etc.

Disproportionate to people employed in other jobs?

Although none of it has any relevance to the OP.

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