To think if you press the button on the crossing it should be fucking illegal to cross before you get the green man?

[nicenewone1]

If you are stopping the traffic, do not cross when there is a gap in the traffic, you pressed the fucking button so you wait for the green man!

All the stopping and starting adds to the pollution and it really fucks me off when I stop and they have already crossed and are on their merry way!

It can't be just me can it that thinks people who do this are inconsiderate, selfish and rude with no thought for the environment?

You actually sound awful and your argument about the environment is ridiculous, once that button is pressed cars are stopping and creating pollution regardless. It is irrelevant whether or not the pedestrian is there.

Do you think the car knows it has stopped for 'no reason' and therefore pollutes more??

Idiot

This will upset you OP. I often push the stop button just to stop the cars after I've crossed. On one road in particular they drive like maniacs. I look on it as giving them practice for stopping.

100 million sperm and that's the one that gets through. Your sitting there complaining about how people who cross the road are not environmentally friendly er yeah ok bit rich coming from the person sitting in a car. Somewhere out there is a dark room waiting for you please go and sit in it until your stupid ideas have gone away.

I've said before it's the process of stopping and starting that increases emissions into the atmosphere. So if I stop at a crossing my vehicles emissions output is increased. That's absolutely fine is people are waiting to cross. But if I stop and there is nobody there my emissions have increased unnecessarily.

I wouldn't be stopping unnecessarily if the crossings were used properly

I am aghast at still having to explain this.

Why don't you walk instead, nicenewone, or cycle, or take the bus, if you are so concerned about pollution? It's what many of the rest of us do, even if it's sometimes inconvenient.

the crossing I use most often seems to be set that the more traffic there is, the longer the wait. I have no idea if this is the case or how it works.

I am able-bodied so try not to push the button if at all possible, I'd rather wait for a 'natural gap'. That is also less risky as I have had people drive over the crossing on red three times now. If there's no car I definitely won't get hit.

but sometimes I push the button and during the long wait for the green man, the traffic has all gone. So I cross. It wasn't deliberate.

If you read up thread Annie you will see I work from a vehicle for 3 hours per day. I am out for another 3 hours a day on foot or cycle.

But if I stop and there is nobody there my emissions have increased unnecessarily.

The same applies whenever you stop at a red light and there are no cars waiting to go across. Just think how many unnecessary emissions you could avoid by driving straight through.

But that would be driving improperly. I'm talking about people using crossings properly. See the difference?

Just think how many omissions could be avoided by not driving at all!!! Op, give it up, your argument and pet peeve is completely without foundation.

See the difference?

Oh I do see the difference, absolutely. I just thought you might enjoy saving the environment one car crash at a time.

I've said before it's the process of stopping and starting that increases emissions into the atmosphere. So if I stop at a crossing my vehicles emissions output is increased. That's absolutely fine is people are waiting to cross. But if I stop and there is nobody there my emissions have increased unnecessarily.

No driving a car in the first place is what causes pollution, pedestrians do not.

I wouldn't be stopping unnecessarily if the crossings were used properly

Eh? If the pedestrian waits until the green man you'd still be stopping, same as if they manage to cross whilst waiting on the green man. It's not bloody rocket science.

If you read up thread Annie you will see I work from a vehicle for 3 hours per day

Then you are choosing to increase pollution for 3 hours a day, ninenewone.

Are you on glue op?

I am aghast at still having to explain this.

I'm aghast that you keep repeating the same point without addressing any of the valid points made above. Could you at least try explaining what is actually wrong with this scenario:

1. Pedestrian approaches busy road with lots of traffic on it, needs to cross, presses button.

1. A minute later, the traffic has cleared but the green man hasn't come up. Pedestrian has no idea what the phasing is or when the green man is likely to appear. Pedestrian decides to cross the safe empty road and continue on his journey.

1. 90 seconds after that, the green man comes up, traffic light go red, traffic has to stop but there is no-one actually crossing.

Why was it morally or legally wrong for the pedestrian to decide to cross when he did? And precisely how does his action increase any traffic emissions beyond what would have happened if he had waited for the green man?

All I read was blah blah blah. Me and my car are superior to everyone else.

You can't be bothered to stop for no reason so you'll have a go at people who cant be bothered standing for no reason lol the irony.

I'd feel like a teat just standing there with no traffic. Only time I wait regardless is when with my children or there's other children there.

Oh and pedestrians always get right of way, so stick that up your exhaust pipe and stall it.

It's not unecessary the goal was to cross it just happened quicker for the pedestrian which can't be changed as there not pyscic.

Anyone else thinking Groundhog Day? OP still churning out the same crap after 14 pages.
1, 2, 3..... 'they say we're young and we don't know..... i got you babe'

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I'm aghast that you keep repeating the same point without addressing any of the valid points made above. Could you at least try explaining what is actually wrong with this scenario:

1. Pedestrian approaches busy road with lots of traffic on it, needs to cross, presses button.

Well you've fallen at the first hurdle. It should be 'Pedestrian approaches busy road with lots of traffic on it, presses button and waits for the green man so they can cross using the crossing properly'

Alternatively, 'Pedestrian approaches busy road with lots of traffic on it. They choose not to press the button and instead wait for a natural gap to cross, thus avoiding using the crossing improperly'

I rest my case

Give it up OP. Nobody agrees with you. You're just another selfish driver on the roads. The End.

I'm still smirking too much about nicenewone1's unnecessary emissions to care either way.

This thread makes me want to go for a walk round town and press all the buttons at all the crossings, just to annoy people like the OP

I am sorely tempted.

Most of my crossings attract more people than just me. If I press the button then see an opportunity to cross I would. Plenty enough people will follow to be grateful for the lights to change as they approach the crossing.
This op must live in an isolated region to only witness one person needing to cross.