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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

and petty to go NC / LC with sick aunt and parents?

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Crazeecurlee · 12/08/2017 20:33

Hi, I would really appreciate some advice. I've recently discovered I am pregnant so am re-evaluating my relationships with family members and I want to know if IBU by cutting contact with my parents and aunt. Long, sorry.

My parents both had abusive (emotionally, physically) childhoods and my childhood was also abusive. Drugs, alcohol, gambling all featured at home. I was sexually abused outside the home from 12 as I never wanted to be home (not by a family member) although my brother remembers our dad abusing us too, which I do not. I’m NC with my brother btw and 100% OK with that and it has nothing to do with the abuse situation.

Ended up in care but went to a good uni, have a job I enjoy and a nice flat. I’m now late twenties. Stayed in contact with parents throughout and we had a good relationship up until last year. I went to their house once a week, spoke on the phone often with Mum etc. They helped out at uni letting me stay sometimes during the summer and lending me money that I have paid back. They have never really acknowledged or apologised for my childhood. That is quite upsetting but I’ve worked hard to try to forgive as much as I can.

I suffer from mental health issues so I know I can be difficult and this story is one sided although I am being as honest as possible.

Last year I was massively suicidal (problems with job at the time) – they knew I was ill. I was working more or less 24/7 and when I wasn’t working found it difficult to leave the house. They didn’t visit me once. Since moving into my flat in Autumn 2015 they have come round maybe 5 times and I am expected to go to them every weekend.

Additionally, I have asked to go on holiday with them the last few years, paying my way obviously. The only holiday we ever had together was a trip when I was about 11 which was one of the worst experiences of my life: dad possibly cheating with a 16 year old girl, mum sobbing on bathroom floor, being locked in an apartment by myself etc. etc. They now go on 5* holidays to the Caribbean (no change in income level between now and then btw). Dad always hypes it up like I am going, but I'm never invited loser to the holiday they just stop talking to me until they get back. Last year – at the time I was really really bad- they went on holiday my mum’s brother, who she doesn’t even really like and who she hadn’t spoken to in over 15 years, and his wife and daughter. The holiday ended up going really badly and they don’t really speak again now.

That they didn't visit me and swanned off on holiday when I was so ill really hurt and I started to reassess my relationship with them. Whilst we can have a laugh and I think they care, they are also often really negative and I realised it was having a big impact on me. For example – Dad is still an alcoholic (functioning), this causes loads of arguments that I witness and they both complain to me about. They have a financial arrangement that causes problems - again, arguments and moaning to me. They have an awful relationship with my brother which I have to hear about all the time (police involved, have had to give witness statements). None of that stuff is necessarily my business but they drag me into it by talking to me about it and arguing in front of me. The atmosphere there can be horrible. They never want to do anything with me and expect me to come to them all the time. My dad is always asking me on the sly for money (gambling still and drink) - really pressuring me. For context, he earns £20k more per year than I do. My mum works part time and earns maybe £5k less than I do. If I ask them for a favour – help laying my fairly small front room with lino for example – they do it but are really really pissed off with me and cannot wait to leave. If dad comes alone he expects money or drink. Politically my mum and I different on almost everything (she's racist, has problems with women etc.) which is tough anyway but you can’t have a differing opinion to my mum without her getting nasty, which makes things even more difficult.

NC happened a few months ago with something really stupid – dad came round to help with a very quick job (his profession). Neither had been to the flat in months. I already said that I was unable to buy him a drink / give money so he came already in a bad mood, started the job and then said they wasn’t going to finish it. I said that was out of order (as starting and not finishing would leave me in a worse position than starting at all) and he stated shouting and swearing at me, being aggressive to and frightening my dog, and stormed out slamming the front door. I was frightened by this point and locked the door. He had left a piece of equipment in the house and came back and started banging on the door. I wouldn’t open (frightened). Mum rang and instead of asking what had happened demanded that I give Dad the equipment. I – probably wrongly – said no, don’t speak to me anymore, if they keep banging I’m calling the police. That’s the last I’ve spoken to them. I still have the piece of equipment.

They have texted to say they miss and love me but I haven’t responded.

Since then my aunt (mum’s sister who I have never been very close to but has helped me out in the past by letting me stay) has had a big operation and her son (my cousin) has a terminal long-term illness which in the past year has gotten worse than usual. She recently text me asking me to come over and see them, and asked if we can be more involved in each others’ lives.

Given how sick she and my cousin have been I feel really guilty for wanting to go LC/NC. However she can't travel very far from her house, so is pressuring me to go there and to stay the night or 2 nights, and is notoriously tight so is unlikely to want to meet up outside her house (there are cafes 2 minutes away). I don't like being at her house, mainly due to her partner. He is a total wanker – passive aggressive creep, walked in on me going to the toilet (no lock but closed door = busy, light was on, didn’t knock), doesn’t acknowledge any of us at all, doesn’t say hello, slams doors, no-one speaks when he is around. Aunt insists I bring my dog; he hates dogs and is really aggressive etc. This reminds me so much of my childhood home that I feel anxious and angry and I don’t really want to go back. Aunt is also similar to mum (overbearing, controlling) and I find that quite stressful and undermining too.

The other part is this. Aunt let slip that their dad may have sexually abused my mum. I knew her home was abusive but I didn’t know that aspect of it. I don't know if it changes anything? I do feel more guilty now not speaking to her though. Mum and aunt are now not speaking and parents are apparently very upset by her telling me this and also that I am speaking to her and now them (told this by aunt who was really sobbing at the time). Aunt still speaks to pedo father, and last time I was there warned me that he may come over so I would have to go upstairs. I've never met him and I don't want to.

Please help me to know what to do. AIBU to go LC/NC with my sick aunt? Has anyone been in a similar situation? If you think I should go NC or LC with aunt, how do I explain? How to I deal with the texts?

Also, with my mum - AIBU? I feel like maybe given just how troubled my mum’s childhood was I should give her another chance. Being pregnant I feel like maybe this is a good time to be forgiving. However I also wonder how she could treat me the way she has and that makes me angry. I am also not interested in speaking with my Dad so that adds an extra layer of problems with speaking to my mum. If I go completely NC, how can I get them to stop messaging me? When I get a text from them it makes me feel awful - guilty and then angry.

No DP and no-one knows I’m pregnant. I don’t speak with any other family and I don’t have many friends.

Thank you!

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Viviennemary · 12/08/2017 20:38

I think you need professional counselling to help you through this. All this childhood abuse which may or may not have taken place. Far too complicated to say yes you should have contact with the family or no you shouldn't. Even more so with a baby on the way into this family and no support from a DP. Too much for one person to handle without any support IMHO. Hope things work out.

MyPatronusIsAUnicorn · 12/08/2017 20:43

Honestly, I think your MH would improve without the lot of this toxic family in your life. They bring you nothing but negativity. There is nothing positive about having them in your life. If you see your aunt, you'll hear about other family, her partner sounds awful and her dad is still on the scene. Cut your losses and keep your baby far far away from the lot of them!

Crazeecurlee · 12/08/2017 20:56

Thanks both for responding so quickly. I feel so relieved to talk about it and that I am not horrible for feeling this way.

I feel like my MH has improved the past few months not having parents in my life, although I do feel guilty.

I had counselling previously (was with CAHMS then a specialist whilst a uni) but was discharged as I seemed to be getting on OK.

I'm glad that I wouldn't be U to go NC with them - I felt for me this would be the right thing to do but felt so selfish as my aunt is clearly struggling a bit. What would be the best way to go about it? A text explaining, and then blocking? Change my number and don't tell them and hope I don't bump into them?

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pinkpantherpink · 12/08/2017 20:57

Agree with MyPatronusIsAUnicorn. From what you have described, the family is toxic and nothing good can come of keeping contact. I'm NC with the majority of my family. Alcohol was a big factor. The individual family groups are in a circle of being best friends, then at each other's throats etc. Now my family are those I choose to include in my life.

I think a good test is whether you would want to subject a baby to that environment.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

Crazeecurlee · 12/08/2017 21:11

Thanks PinkPanther. Can I ask how you went NC?

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addittothelist · 12/08/2017 21:24

If I can offer an alternative perspective...

It took a long time for my issues with my family to come to light and I let them form a relationship with my DC in that time.

Now that I've realised what a bunch of sexually deviant alcoholics they are I WISH I had cut them out before I brought DC into this.

Really, your child can't miss what they don't have.

So your Mum had a tough childhood. So what? She hasn't made amends or accepted responsibility for your tough childhood. So she can fuck off.

PollyFlint · 12/08/2017 22:34

Reading through your outline of your past and the way your family have treated you - not to mention how they behave towards each other - I honestly can't see any reason why you would/should have any contact with them. You would absolutely not be unreasonable to cut off your family, including your aunt. This is a horrible, dysfunctional and toxic environment for you and it's obviously caused you a lot of harm in the past - and will continue to do so if you continue to see them.

pinkpantherpink · 12/08/2017 22:59

It didn't happen overnight. When I did meet up, i set myself a time limit. Didn't always work, as emotional blackmail is powerful. Give yourself a break and don't beat yourself up if it doesn't work every time.

For the people who expected me to visit them, or call them always, I let the time lapse longer and longer.

I was selective about going to family events, weddings etc. I would sometimes take a very good friend who was useful at extracting me.

I had counselling in my early twenties which helped me gain perspective, accept that I was not to blame. That helped immensely. I remember sitting on the stairs on the phone to someone. Off the phone, I was distraught. Had a lightbulb moment, realizing calls with family shouldn't result in me in tears.

Not sure if any of that helps. But you can do what you need to do.

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