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AIBU to disagree that i'm being "petty" for parking here?

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YetAnotherBloodyNewUsername · 12/08/2017 20:07

Basically:

I live in a block of flats on a main road. High crime area (lots of car thefts and car vandalism - which is why my insurance is sky high).

I passed my test a few months ago. I've lived here for over five years. In this whole street, there is just one lay by which is right outside my balcony; big enough for three cars.Although anybody in the street can use this (no restrictions on it whatsoever), it's always been occupied by the same three neighbours. All three neighbours live in my block and have lived here the longest. Therefore, i think they have an ingrained sense of entitlement to park here.

The rest of us just park alongside the pavements, tucked in to the kerbs as closely as we can.

Wednesday morning, i went out to find my wing mirror knocked off. Not surprising. I knew it was going to happen sooner or later with the sheer speed some cars fly through this street at.

I did not claim on my insurance as I really want to get my 1 years no claims discount at the end of this policy or my premium will never come down.

Anyway, two of these neighbours are retired and don't go out much so their cars are pretty much stationary in the lay by. The third neighbour, however, doesn't get back from work until about 10.30pm.

I get home from work around 6pm. So i, and everybody else, park on the main road despite there always being a space in this lay by while neighbour number 3 is at work. I think we've all just convinced ourselves that this lay by is 'theirs' despite it not being theirs at all.

Last night, i picked DD up from my mum's and brought them to mine for dinner. My mum commented on how daft it was me parking on the main road again after just getting my mirror fixed when there's a space in the lay by. So i parked in it.

I felt totally nervous as if I was stealing something but i parked in it anyway. It's been there since (mum got a taxi home and i've not been out today).

Neighbour number three has just knocked and asked if I'm going out today. I knew right away why he wanted to know (he's barely said two words to me since i moved in despite him living right above me). I simply said no and he asked very politely if i could move my car back to it's normal position. He was barely able to sleep last night as he wasn't able to see his car from his window (our balconies overlook the lay-by) and it''s a new car.

I said that mine was new too (not factory new, but new to me!) and i didn't want to go and get me and dd ready and go out in the rain just to move my car. He offered to move it for me! I said no. Tried to make a joke that my car's a right mess and he wouldn't want to sit on crumbs and mint wrappers etc.

So then his niceness stopped and he outright said "look, please move your car. I don't understand why you're suddenly being so petty."

I was a bit shaken up at this point as i cannot stand confrontation and this guy is pretty much a stranger to me as we've never had a conversation before. I told him that i'll likely be going out tomorrow so i'll park elsewhere then. He then starts asking me what time i'm going out and what time my shifts at work are during the week. Like an idiot, i told him. No idea why. felt very intimidated. He seemed to make a mental note of it, wished me a rather abrupt good night then went back up to his own flat.

I feel like a total idiot. 1. for being so shaky over what was basically just a chat with a neighbour. and 2. for not standing up for myself a bit more.

Now that he's gone, i'm sudden;y feeling very petty indeed. Trying to think of where we can go to tomorrow locally without the car. I'll just order my shop to get delivered instead of going to get it in person.

I also feel guilty. He's been parking there for over 5 years. Except from the odd occasion, when the spots have been taken by visitors or taxis, all three neighbours have pretty much parked there every night.

Anyway, i'm not quite sure what to do now. As soon as i go out in the car, he''l move his car back to the lay-by. But i'm home from work before him during the week so i'm going to feel like a right doormat if i leave it vacant for him.

Urgh. i feel so awkward now. He genuinely seemed so hurt and confused at my 'pettiness' there.

OP posts:
ADishBestEatenCold · 12/08/2017 21:03

"(totally amazing neighbour compared to my downstairs one!)"

I agree that if all the parking places are potentially for all the people, then clearly you have got as much right as he has to park there.

However, there must be a reason that everyone else has allowed him to have that particular spot for the past five years. Maybe they too had decided that he was pretty much an amazing neighbour (in comparison with others) and therefore actually wanted to allow him to keep 'his' parking spot.

Then, after five years, you came along and took it. Legally so, maybe even rightly so ... yet, already your behavior has you feeling combative, restless and petty. You're planning how to beat him to the spot.
Which is all fine. If that's the way you want to be, then no one could say you're in the wrong to compete to park there ... but ... be prepared to have less amazing neighbours as time goes on!

Oh ... it is a shame about your wing mirror. I've had that happen too, and it's infuriating. Costly too. Folding your wing mirrors in when you park can help, so it's a good habit to get into.

Forgettheworld · 12/08/2017 21:12

I'd keep parking there whenever it's free. The thing is though if the other neighbours see you there they may start parking there too.

rainbowlou · 12/08/2017 21:59

Oh I really feel for you, we had this exact same thing where we lived up until a year ago and everyone who lived downstairs treated the communal gardens like their own and put out play equipment, tables and chairs permanently so 'us upstairs' never felt we could use it...one of the neighbours that believed he owned a space bought fake parking tickets online and took great delight in putting them on cars in 'his' space Confused
Don't give in to him! X

chocolateworshipper · 12/08/2017 22:04

Parking thread with no diagram?

ColdCottage · 12/08/2017 22:27

I can understand while he feels a claim to it (wrongly) but...

Like the others said, you should just park there if it's free and elsewhere otherwise.

If he brings it up again just let him know politely that you understand he usually uses the space but it is communal parking and that means first come first served and that will probably mean that won't always be yourself parking there either and that although you are sure he doesn't mean it that him confronting you like this makes you feel uncomfortable.

Good luck. Be brave. Fair is fair.

HeddaGarbled · 12/08/2017 22:38

This is a really really difficult one. Put yourself in his shoes. You've parked in the same spot for 5 years and now someone has started pinching "your" space. Yes, I know it's not really his space but it must feel like that to him. Yes, you have a legal and moral right to park in "his" space but he's not going to give it up graciously.

You've got a real dilemma here. You can insist on your equal right to the space but you will annoy and upset him and could potentially get into a long term war of attrition. Or you could go for appeasement, maintain the amicable situation but lose a convenient and secure parking space.

Which is more important to you and do you have the stomach for the ill-feeling?

HeddaGarbled · 12/08/2017 22:44

Wing mirrors can be folded in, by the way.

Longtime · 12/08/2017 23:23

Write to the council and ask about the parking. If they reply that anyone can park there, photocopy the reply and post through the doors of your neighbours, then park there. Or, you may decide it's not worth having problems with your neighbours. In which case you may have to put up with not parking there.

RhodaBorrocks · 12/08/2017 23:36

Sounds similar to the set up of my flats, except we're not on a main road but we are on a busy bus route. I've had my wing mirror taken off before too. The only car park is round the corner out of sight. A lot if people prefer to park where they can see their cars, or else park as close to their flat as possible. Im disabled so actually need to park close, but it's a bit if a free for all and if the only options are cause myself pain by parking safely in the next close or parking dangerously then I choose the former. Some of my neighbours are very happy to park dangerously though.

Try not to be intimidated. I like Longtime's suggestion.

GaryBarlowsTaxReturn · 12/08/2017 23:42

Are your flats privately owned? May be worth an email to your management company if so, they could drop a letter round reminding residents that no parking spaces are allocated etc etc.

InFairness · 12/08/2017 23:59

what an unhelpful post. A man the op does not know questioned her, accused her of being petty and wanted to know her work patterns. Not a pleasant experience. Please don't add to it by making her feel her reaction was not a normal one.

Tbf even the OP said they feel silly for feeling shaky about what was just a chat.

With regard to the parking it's first come first served.

Maelstrop · 13/08/2017 01:01

Petty? He's rude, don't let him bully you. Rehearse what to say next time eg parking is a free for all, you can't 'reserve' spaces. It's not your space.'

HappenstanceMarmite · 13/08/2017 01:27

Or you could go for appeasement, maintain the amicable situation but lose a convenient and secure parking space.

And so the passive aggressive bullying neighbour wins...again. It's because nobody will stand up to him that the ludicrous situation of a space being empty until 10:30 continues.

littletwofeet · 13/08/2017 11:08

Practice what you will say, sympathise with him but stress you are in the same position.

'I know, it's horrible isn't it, I panic too when I can't see my car'

'Would love to live sonewhere with a driveway so I didn't have to worry about parking up the road'

'I couldn't get a space myself the other day and my miror got knocked off, so annoying isn't it'

Be nice and polite but don't treat it like it's his space.
Don't be intimidated into not parking there when there is a space-that's just madness!

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