Safe spaces for “fat-identified” people?

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No, I'm not BU for thinking that there are people out there giggling about how far they can take identity politics

www.campusreform.org/?ID=9577

If I'm a transphobe does that mean I'm transitioning from being brave about something to identifying as being scared of it?

And race identities, and age identities, and species identities...

So basically a support group for (identifying as) fat people, over run with neurotic thin people?

Sounds fucking awful.

It does give a whole new meaning to 'you can be anything you want to be' though, doesn't it?

Brave New World

And I identify as 'non-goady' and 'non-ridiculous' and if you argue with that then you are selfnamingidentityphobe

Self ID is basically a gatecrashers' charter, isn't it?

Yes Serf. I identify as owning your house, so get packing

That's very excluding.

People are who/what they say they are.

Relying on physical appearance is just so reductionist. What we feel inside is the true us.

(tongue firmly in cheek)

Fortunately assigned, I identify as both a police officer AND a magistrate so you'll be for it if you so much as look at my house

Aren't we producing enough deluded people as it is?

At least it keeps them all in one place.

Unfortunately not Wren judging by the people on here just calling me goady for daring to discuss the ludicrousness of identity politics. It's as though words are actually supposed to mean something.

It's the il logical conclusion to the current preoccupation with self-identity. So you can have anorexic people identifying as fat and then you have genuinely overweight people feeling too uncomfortable to use the group because it's no longer about the issues they face at all. It makes all these kinds of groups and spaces redundant, and isolates people from RL support. If this generation doesn't wake up, it's going to take years to undo the damage all of this is causing.

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Peace and love etc.

Reported the thread? I think the fact that this thread has been reported and that I have been called 'goady' for daring to discuss identity politics perfectly illustrates that there are many who do not grasp the concepts and dangers of identity politics. Fucking hell

It's very odd. I've come to the conclusion that although people do understand, they just don't care.

Usually because they think it won't affect them.

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why should weight be an identity??????

Yes Serf. I identify as owning your house, so get packing

Best post. Ever.

"We offer a safe space for LGBTQ persons who identify as fat" oh FUCK OFF these people have become a parody of themselves.

Fat identified sounds to me like people who are comfortable being larger. That also seems apparent on the page linked. I'm not a fan of the terminology either but it does make sense.

It would be laughable if it wasn't for the inherent danger of self identify bollocks.

However as it's all right on and inclusive for a man to barge in on women's spaces and bang on about how he too suffers the same problems but tougher because he also has male privilege, then there's no reason I can't barge in on cis overweight people and bang on about not only being overweight but the extra hardship of being a fat person trapped in a thin body.

And while you're at it, you could insist they centre thin people in their discussions.

Yes so I have been asked to change my user name, because it apparently might cause offence. Not sure why. If it was because of 'mental' i really do apologise to anyone offended, but it's common parlance where I grew up. But genuinely sorry if I hurt anyone. You might also wonder about the mental health of women who are abused and raped but cannot access proper help.

If I'm a transphobe does that mean I'm transitioning from being brave about something to identifying as being scared of it?

Hm, now, that's an interesting question. You are right, that must be it!
But wait, those who call us transphobic actually are annoyed at us because we stand up for ourselves and don't let them scare us into submission. Shouldn't they call us cisbraves or something?

Anyway, next time someone calls me a terf, I suppose I should tell them that I actually identify as police officer.

Fat identified sounds to me like people who are comfortable being larger. That also seems apparent on the page linked. I'm not a fan of the terminology either but it does make sense.

I don't think it means that nowadays.

Woman identified woman was a phrase that meant women who were no handmaidens of patriarchy, but identified with their own cause.

Nowadays, though, "identifies as woman" means basically everyone who identifies as woman, regardless of reality.

I'd be rather surprised if those safe spaces were designed for actually fat people who are okay with being fat and want to remain so. Actual support groups for fat people would be aware that this would lead to misunderstandings, and therefore wouldn't use it, I think.