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Utterly fucked off with exdp's selfishness.

33 replies

PenSylvester · 12/08/2017 08:37

Exdp has always been a bit of a shit, although I couldn't see it at first. We were together for 5 years and he was frequently emotionally, physically and financially abusive (he brokes laptops before deadlines for assignments, strangled me, hit me, called me a fat bitch while battling ED). He also fathered two children before our DD, which he denied and abandoned. I didn't find this out until DD was around 1.

I'm now happy and settled with DD and a new DP who is wonderful and supportive and I have honestly never been happier. We are finally financially and emotionally stable and DD doesn't live in a house full of tension.

HOWEVER we're still having major problems with ex. At points he has gone months without paying any maintenance. He makes promises to DD that he doesn't keep. He was meant to have her yesterday, but said he was ill which I was sympathetic about at first. He also said he couldn't pay me for two weeks as he had taken holiday that he hadn't accrued or something? Fair enough, slip ups happen.

I then looked on Facebook, and he has taken his new girlfriend out for the evening, so clearly not as poor or ill as he is suggesting. He also has form for buying new xboxes, games, clothes, tattoos, piercings when he has been pleading poverty.

His girlfriend is heavily pregnant. They must have conceived a couple of weeks into their relationship. My point is he doesn't put enough effort in for DD now, so when his new dc is born I really fear for her. I checked the netflix account one time when she was at his, and she had been watching for 4 out of the 6 hours he had her.

She is 4 and she never wants to sleep over at his, as she says she doesn't feel safe, and the biggest issue is that every time she comes back from his, she is upset because his girlfriend ignores her and plays on her phone the whole time. No interactions whatsoever apart from a "hello".

Sorry this is so disordered, I'm just so angry and upset for DD and don't know what I can do.

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JWrecks · 12/08/2017 10:48

You may well still be slightly under his control. He uses your DD to control you in whatever way he can, using her as a pawn to get to you. And he always will do, as long as he is able. Abusers don't often change, and the one thing they crave most over all else is control.

You say your DD loves exdp to bits... but you also say she doesn't want to go to his, returns from his upset because she is ignored there, does not really value any gifts he's given her, considers you and your DP her parents, and even says that she doesn't feel safe in his home?

What is your poor DD getting out of her relationship with him, apart from two very bad role models? From where I'm sitting, it sounds like sweet fuck all, at best.

My guess is that she says she loves him because she is only 4, and a sweet little girl, and he is one of only a handful of people whom she really knows. But do you want THAT man - the man who strangled you and hit you, verbally and emotionally abused you, and neglects his own DD - to be one of the few adults who impresses upon her little mind what a man is supposed to be??

You KNOW that he is an abuser. He MAY not have abused her - yet - but he certainly neglects her, confuses her, and messes her about. And I would argue that showing such minute and occasional interest, failing to turn up when she expects to see him, and everything else you've described, is emotionally abusive, as well as extremely confusing, already. And you posted that she says she doesn't feel SAFE sleeping over at his! If he hasn't begun to act just as cruelly toward her as he done toward you yet, well... I know abusers, and my best guess is that he will do soon enough.

You CANNOT continue to allow your daughter to see this man, if there is anything you can do about it! Not only is it extremely unduly stressful for you to be forced to deal with an abusive ex and his bullshit (when you should have cut 100% of contact years ago), it is also NOT GOOD FOR HER at all. At BEST, he and his girlfriend are teaching her terrible life lessons - about what adults/parents/men/women should be and how they should behave; about what a loving and/or healthy relationship is; about what love is and how people behave toward those they claim to love; about trust and trustworthiness; about how a man should speak to and treat his wife/girlfriend; and more I'm sure - but at worst, they are neglecting her when she is with them and possibly emotionally or verbally abusing her in some way as well already!

I'm sure your DD says she "loves" her "daddy" or whatever, but from every other detail you've shared here, she does not, really - or at least she is very confused about what love is and how it feels. Or maybe she loves him but doesn't particularly like him? She certainly doesn't seem to love him in a healthy way that we understand. If you were to cut all contact, as you should in my opinion, I'm sure DD would get over it quickly enough. Perhaps refocus her interest in exp onto your new DP and strengthen her relationship with a decent man who does not abuse her mother, a good man who teaches her the right lessons about what men and relationships should be. And even if she struggles with missing exdp for quite a while, that struggle is, again in my opinion, far preferable to the struggle she will feel when his neglect inevitably turns to proper emotional, mental, and verbal abuse, manipulation, and even possible physical violence and then REALLY fucks with her head!

As a complete layman and total non-expert who just happens to have personal experience with abusers much like your exdp, I cannot urge you strongly enough to cut all contact with this man, from yourself and especially your DD! And fuck what other people think about being "one of those mums"! They can mind their business, for one thing. This man strangled and hit you, verbally abused you, destroyed your property, intimidated you, and on! You need to do everything you possibly can do to make sure that he is never able to so much as try to do anything like that to your daughter! Personally, I'd rather be "one of those mums" than one of those whose shitty ex partners abuse their DC!!

Notevilstepmother · 12/08/2017 10:59

Write a diary of events. Put dates and times of what happened, look at your texts to help you, and take a screenshot of the Facebook page.

Don't confront him about stopping contact, just agree and then he probably won't bother anyway.

Let the contact die out and if he does take you to court at least you have evidence.

In the meantime maybe talk to social services about your DD saying she doesn't feel safe at her fathers house?

Maelstrop · 12/08/2017 11:02

So stop pushing him for contact. Don't actively stop it, but stop contacting him and let him do the running. I would stop allowing overnights if she doesn't feel safe.

PenSylvester · 12/08/2017 11:24

Thank you all for the massive wake up call. I agree with everything you've said, and I actually hate myself a bit for letting this go on for so long. I'm going to start compiling a diary of his actions when DD is asleep later.
She really is such a precious little girl. She is clever, inquisitive, imaginative, considerate, kind, happy, funny, and so beautiful and it pains me that her own dad can't see it. She is nothing like him. I won't let him ruin her.
Overnights stopped a long time ago. I've also, of recent, sometimes kept her with me and made plans rather than letting her go to her dads for the sake of sitting in front of the telly all day or 10 minute visits to the park.

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imjusthereforasec · 12/08/2017 11:25

This who are suggesting non-contact need to understand the predicament this places the op in from a legal perspective. The courts will do everything in their power to have both parents have contact, and unless the op can PROVE abuse to the child they will insist on contact. If she withholds contact they will force it upon her and in some cases insist on more frequent and overnight stays. Thy don't always take what the child says into account (as it can be manipulated!!)

imjusthereforasec · 12/08/2017 11:26

*those not this!

Booboobooboo84 · 12/08/2017 11:35

@imjusthereforasec I absolutely agree that's why unless in the case of outright violence I always advocate maintaining contact but very much on your terms. So in this case I very much feel just letting him slip off the radar is the very best way. He doesn't sound like he has much oomph to him so it's the most painless way of doing it for all

Janeismymiddlename · 12/08/2017 11:47

I don't get the fear of the courts ordering contact over you taking control of the safety of your child

Then you have a lot of faith in the system. Some of us are way more cynical. Comes with experience.

The courts will do everything in their power to have both parents have contact, and unless the op can PROVE abuse to the child they will insist on contact

Agreed. Watching Deadpool will be regarded as a parenting difference. Social Services don't remove children from families who let their children watch the wrong certificate films, nor for having the TV on for 4 hours (you can't prove he was watching it).

It does, however, sound like contact will fade away if the OP just leaves it. This is probably the best course of action. Beware solicitors who will take your money to fight a case you can't 'win'. There are many online resources to use before seeking legal advice in a situation like this.

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