To apply again for an internal job after rejection?

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Bit of background:

My team was restructured and myself and a colleague told our jobs would no longer exist as of 1st July. We were invited to apply for a new role being created at our current grade. It was ringfenced just for us two.

I didn't get it. The interview was very different to previous interviews I had done, which had been just an interview. This time it was interview, presentation, and a test. It was really stressful.

I failed the test. I knew this at the time. Also my presentation was too long and I had to speed up to say all I wanted to say and I got the impression from the interviewer's follow up questions that I hadn't addressed the question set for the presentation - although tbf the subject was an internal thing management knew a lot about but we had only been informed of the day before interview, and even then only bits and pieces.

Feedback was also that my interview answers were 'operational' (not sure what that means) and that I didn't say enough about what I did. I also noticed one of the interviewers glancing at his watch a lot so I clearly spoke too much.

I know all about STAR - I've passed competency interviews before, but these questions were much more intense.

One of the questions was "tell me about a successful idea someone had as a result of your influence" I'm still stuck at a good answer!

Anyway, my colleague got the job, and I was demoted which I am not happy about considering I've been with the company much longer than she has.

She has just handed in her notice because she doesn't like the new job and it is 'boring'. She has a job elsewhere.

I haven't been offered the job. It is now going to be advertised both internally and externally.

I don't know if I should reapply. I'm worried about rejection again and the fact they are extending the applicant pool makes me paranoid that I was really THAT bad a candidate.

I'm not a bad worker - in fact I've had lots of positive feedback from clients - my LinkedIn is full of positive recommendations and lots of people were shocked I didn't get the role. I guess I just interview badly.

I like parts of my new role but obviously not the salary and the drop in status. Plus other new staff started at the same time as me and I am expected to hand over all my previous projects to them after lots of hard work on them. It's making me angry and feeling pushed out. So I'm thinking well if I'm not welcome in that team, maybe I'll reapply?

But leaving colleague says it's a boring job...

sorry, this is longer than I thought it would be. I guess I just wanted to know what others would do in my position.

I don't think I would reapply; because if they wanted to offer you the job they could have, but if you don't apply you can't get the role. If you want it, apply!

I would apply but I would also be looking elsewhere!!!

I wouldn't go for the job again, it's boring and I don't think they want you in the role. However you're clearly not happy and it seems like the company isn't the right place for you to be. I'd start looking further afield. Look on LinkedIn! It's where I got my job. Good luck!

I would apply but I would get mountains of advice,feedback, ask colleague who is leaving for advice if she's nice etc

I have been knocked back mountains of times for jobs, external and internal and finally have a job I want , persist ! It's a tough climate out there

It might be boring for her but not for you too

I think I read your other post.... hasn't she complained in the past about the job, didn't want this one either....so whether she thinks it's boring is irrelevant as she sounds like a downer!!!

I would say go for it.... what have you got to lose? you won't lose the job you have now, and you have an advantage that you KNOW what the interview will be like... you can prepare, think back on what was asked last time and work out a good answer.

I interviewed for quite a few internal jobs at a place I volunteered and was turned down for them, they eventually gave in (haha) and gave me a couple of hours....I must have made a good impression as I have been offered a bigger role with more hours/responsibilities. I figured I must be rubbish at interviews...lol but every interview I had, I asked for feedback and took that into consideration for my next interview... good luck x

I'd apply but also start casting your net further.

Is this public or private sector?

yes, it's the same girl!

I change my username regularly so as not to be ID

I bloody knew she was going to do this, so did the bloody interviewers too. What a waste of time and effort on everyone's part.

public sector

Par for the course in public sector sadly

They would have gone on who got the most points even though they knew she'd be bored

If you still want the job go for it.
Did you get feedback after the interview to help improve future performance (as well as what you observed)? You need to if not.
Internal candidates often don't say enough in interviews as they assume the interviewers know all about them. But you have to SAY it as they can't include what they know of you outside the interview room.
The Q you cite is slightly odd - I'd emphasise where you influenced or gave someone a good idea they used
Definitely rehearse all the interview Qs with suitable evidence (a variety of) & time yr presentation. Make it shorter, max 3-5 items on a slide (if using PowerPoint) & work out the key points you want to get across - the 3 things you want them to remember
Preferably get a friend to look over these with you & give constructive feedback.
You can improve interview performance with preparation and practice :)

Are you a member of a union OP? It sounds to me as though they have actually made you redundant but offered you a lower paid job to save going through the redundancy process. I might be wrong but it is certainly worth checking.

But in answer to your question - I think it depends on whether you really want the job and how well you think you would cope if they didn't appoint you for a second time.

Personally I would focus my energies on getting a job somewhere else because it sounds as though they are treating you badly.

if you feel brave enough, go for it. what have you got to lose, apart from your pride?

Good point Ruby - yr salary should have been protected too at least for a limited period