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I lost my job last week WIBU?

129 replies

Looklock · 25/07/2017 19:13

On Friday my boss sacked me. I had been there for nearly 2 years and worked in a team of 2 women. One of the women W1 was really nice, very outgoing and popular but often let deadlines slip. The other woman W2 slated her every single day, from what she wore to her children's names. She pointed out every error behind her back and was generally very unpleasant to be around cos she never had a nice word to say.

All 3 of us were working to the same promotion but W2 spent every moment planning how to get there. She made our office juniors lives hell and undermined our boss constantly.

Fast forward to 2 weeks ago and W1 was off work all week cos her DD had her appendix removed. W2 used this as an excuse to dig out all of W1s work and essentially sabotage it. She changed dates to make it look like she had ignored customers for months and basically made W1 look like she'd really messed up. W2 passed this to the boss and when W1 got back there were lots of changes in place that basically controlled how she worked and she was now under the supervision of W2.

W1 was obviously confused and upset. She could see her work had been tampered with and blamed some juniors. She then asked me what had happened and I answered that W2 had shown her work to the boss because she was concerned. I didn't tell the full story because it was too awkward. W1 was shocked.

I then had a few days off and come back on Friday. My boss called me in and asked why I had dropped W2 in it. I explained and she said W1 and W2 had talked it through and W1 was extremely upset with me for lying. W2 was very hurt and felt like she could never work with me again. This left the boss in a difficult position and because she had two against one she felt the only way to make the situation better was to let me go.

So that was it. I should have stayed out of it all but after nearly 2 years of it all I snapped. I was so sick of W2s behaviour. But now I don't have a job. I had a civil relationship with both of them before that and got on very well with other staff. I also produced the highest figures for our team. I'm so confused by all of it I can't tell anymore if I was BU.

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MrTrebus · 25/07/2017 19:15

Err you can't just be sacked like that in this day and age! You need to get legal advice and look at a tribunal.

Chchchchangeabout · 25/07/2017 19:17

YANBU your company has acted illegally! I would start by ringing ACAS for advice

Gingernaut · 25/07/2017 19:17

You failed to tell the boss what W2 had done.

You failed to tell W1 the entire story and gave W2 the opportunity to ingratiate herself with both the boss and W1 in spite of her sabotaging W1's work.

You should have reported W2 as soon as you realised what she'd done to W1's work.

As it is, you can be fired with no real come back as you haven't worked there 2 years.

Looklock · 25/07/2017 19:17

My DF was a solicitor and said I have no rights because I hadn't been there 2 years. He was raging at it all though

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Nellysmagichat · 25/07/2017 19:19

W2 used this as an excuse to dig out all of W1s work and essentially sabotage it. She changed dates to make it look like she had ignored customers for months and basically made W1 look like she'd really messed up.

Did she do all of this in front of you? Shock

She must know where the bodies are buried if she will blatently do something like that with no fear of recriminations.

BritInUS1 · 25/07/2017 19:19

Unfortunately as you have been there less than 2 years I think your husband is right. x

Looklock · 25/07/2017 19:20

I really tried to stay out of it but gave in when the juniors were getting it in the neck from W1. I should have said everything at the beginning but I just stayed out of it. Then when I told my boss on Friday it was too late. My version didn't match W2s and that was it.

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DonaldStott · 25/07/2017 19:20

If you have been there for 2 years and are in a union, you need to appeal the decision. They can't sack you on your colleagues say so.

They need to follow procedure. You need to have been dismissed for gross misconduct or some such reason. Which, from the sounds of it, you have not committed a sackable offence.

WannaBeDelgadaToFitInToMyPrada · 25/07/2017 19:21

Blimey. What a machiavellian pit of deranged vipers.

I'd be tempted to tell the REST of the story to W1 now.

saveforthat · 25/07/2017 19:21

Ginger is right until you have two years service you can be sacked for no reason whatsoever. Unless you are a protected category eg pregnant or disabled

camtt · 25/07/2017 19:21

unfortunately I think your legal rights are quite limited- and I expect they knew this and perhaps you were the only one in that position as it sounds like Ws 1 and 2 were already there when you joined. Whatever the legal situation I would write to the company pointing out exactly what happened and copy it to anyone senior who you think might pay it any attention. Assuming it is as you said, it is unfair and you can at least call them out on the unfairness. I wouldn't hold my breath for an acknowledgement and it might do nothing at all, but it might mean that management procedures are improved for the future.

DonaldStott · 25/07/2017 19:21

Oh sorry. See you haven't been there for quite 2 years.

I'd still ring acas though as it doesn't sound like they have followed the correct procedure.

Looklock · 25/07/2017 19:22

She did it slyly Nelly. She sat at her desk and pulled everything out. I knew what the documents looked like before and after W2 had hold of them. She then told everyone who'd listen about all of the mistakes.

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WannaBeDelgadaToFitInToMyPrada · 25/07/2017 19:23

ps I think w2 must have told your boss something awful about you. It makes no sense to sack you because you had to answer a question that you were confronted with, and you did it fairly diplomatically, you didn't lean right in to stir a pot of your making.

WannaBeDelgadaToFitInToMyPrada · 25/07/2017 19:24

W2 has got rid of both contenders for the promotion now. It sounds like The Hunger Games.

Pickleypickles · 25/07/2017 19:25

So long as we're no longer on probation they CANNOT sack you like that by law regardless of how long you have been there. Did you have a contract of employment?

Pickleypickles · 25/07/2017 19:25

You were not we're

Looklock · 25/07/2017 19:27

My boss was furious with me. I've had all weekend to think over it but it still hasn't got any clearer.

On Monday another member of staff messaged me saying W2 had been boasting about it all in the staff room saying she's definitely next in line for the promotion now cos she's supervisor to the only other person in the running.

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Groupie123 · 25/07/2017 19:28

Go to ACAS anyway. Call your company's CEO and ask for whistleblowing protection and shop W2 for fraud & manager for unfair dismissal.

eurochick · 25/07/2017 19:30

Please stop spreading misinformation. The posters saying that there is nothing she can do as she had not been there for two years are unfortunately correct (as is the OP's father). Probation is meaningless.

BrazillaBells · 25/07/2017 19:30

Why the fuck didn't you tell at least your boss the full story?? Bloody hell, stand up for yourself instead of just rolling over.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 25/07/2017 19:31

W2 is a fucking big bully and a lying sabataging one at that and your boss is an arse hole.
I'd say you've got a very high case of unfair dismassal.

Looklock · 25/07/2017 19:32

Yes pickley I have a contract

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flowery · 25/07/2017 19:33

Drives me potty when people who have no clue what they are talking about come on AIBU giving vulnerable posters complete nonsense legal advice as fact.

AnUtterIdiot · 25/07/2017 19:35

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