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To feel so angry with Boots re: the MAP

90 replies

BunnyCupBows · 22/07/2017 11:04

I can't believe that in 2017 we are still having to fight to rid the world of sexist and outdated attitudes to women and sex.... Honestly it makes my blood boil when they refused to reduce the price because they believe it would be used 'inappropriately'. Is anyone else boycotting Boots?

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TodaysUser · 22/07/2017 14:40

Oh no! Grin

Batteriesallgone · 22/07/2017 14:41

We gave sexually health services with a rigorous assessment. Teenagers at risk of CSE or abuse were given appropriate support.

Many, many girls were accessing us regularly through lack of planning even though they were being offered LTM of contraception.

Your naivety is astounding. Many of those 'girls' will have lied in fear, or because they weren't yet able to articulate even in their own thoughts what was going on / how they felt.

Just because someone is bolshy and saying 'oh I just can't be bothered taking a daily pill' doesn't mean they aren't also at the same time a vulnerable individual.

GirlOnATrainToShite · 22/07/2017 18:31

It was in a rural community and I knew a lot of the girls.

They were not too frightening to speak to me.

I cannot help the way I am percieved on here - I know I am the complete opposite to being judgemental.

Batteriesallgone · 22/07/2017 18:35

If you knew them personally they'd be less likely to disclose abuse. I grew up in a rural community where everyone knew my parents. Guess how many people I told about them abusing me? None.

Didn't start to get over it at all until I moved to a city and could anonymously talk to people.

You sound like you live in a bubble tbh.

Letitrain · 22/07/2017 18:44

Boots fucked up. They tried to sell it at a higher price to increase their profit margin on this item.

When this was discovered they attempted to explain it away by saying it was a moral issue. The truth is more likely that it was viewed as a 'distress purchase'. Like petrol on a motorway, it's always going to cost more if it's a distress purchase and you have no choice at the time but to buy from the first available retailer.

GirlOnATrainToShite · 22/07/2017 19:41

Thanks.

I am pretty good at my job.

Dawndonnaagain · 22/07/2017 20:49

I cannot help the way I am percieved on here - I know I am the complete opposite to being judgemental.
Yes you can. Stop making judgemental statements.

OlennasWimple · 22/07/2017 20:59

If Boots had just said that they weren't prepared to change their price because they believed that it was the right price point for that product (perhaps noting that it had to be accompanied by a consultation, so the cost is more than the product itself), then fine. It was the blether about women not being responsible in their use of the MAP that revealed their misogyny pissed me off

GirlOnATrainToShite · 22/07/2017 21:28

Dawn

Please quote a judgemental statement I have made.

PencilsInSpace · 22/07/2017 21:50

Here's a selection of the things you have said, GirlOnATrainToShite:
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I don't think it should be too cheap - we (as couples) need to take responsibility and look at LTM of contraception and look at preventing rather than reacting.

We used to get girls in who used it a lot - even though we tried to promote other methods to them.

I am just saying we need to be a bit more responsible for ourselves that's all.

Condoms are freely available....

We can make excuses for everything but if you are taking the MAP on a regular basis I think you need to make some changes around your contraception choices.

Women in refuges get access to free contraception and are unlikely to be having sex anyway.

I am not denying that people have accidents - I am talking about people who use the MAP regularly.

Yes ideally men take responsibility too - but we get pregnant they do not - they can walk away and ultimately the responsibility is ours whether we like it per not.

if women are accessing it as a regular form of contraception we as a society need to address those issues.

If you are in a hostel/refuge as a result of being raped you will be given access to sexual health devices so think it's you being obtuse.

Women in a relationship with coercive control are unlikely to be buying the MAP at Boots hmm?

I am talking about people who are using it as a regular form of contraception because they cannot organise themselves.

Many, many girls were accessing us regularly through lack of planning even though they were being offered LTM of contraception.

I am by no means judging I am stating fact - and maybe easy access the MAP allows this attitude - that's all.
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I think you have no clue about the reality of many women and girls' lives, especially those in abusive situations. There could be a full scale grooming gang scandal on your doorstep and you'd be standing there scratching your head, wondering why all these young girls couldn't just organise themselves better and take responsibility.

Are you still in that job?

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 22/07/2017 21:53

If people take the MAP it's shows they have a modicum of sense ! I recall the days of
Going to to doctors

Batteriesallgone · 22/07/2017 22:12

There could be a full scale grooming gang scandal on your doorstep and you'd be standing there scratching your head, wondering why all these young girls couldn't just organise themselves better and take responsibility.

Exactly what I was thinking

Dawndonnaagain · 22/07/2017 22:30

Thank you, Pencils! Flowers

Dawndonnaagain · 22/07/2017 22:33

I chatted to dds today, it's 15 miles for free contraception from here, fiver return. Not exactly easy. Apparently free condoms were available from the local GP but that is no longer the case.

SonicBoomBoom · 23/07/2017 09:38

I think saying the girls are possibly being "abused" is making ignorant people like Girl think that's not going to be the case in the vast majority of cases and is the exception.

Except, when you're a young teen, and you're being pressured into sex by a guy, and by pressured, I mean when they try and undo jeans buttons and put their hand down pants repeatedly after the girl saying "let's stay above clothes", or him saying let's get naked but we'll just cuddle and then constantly pushing trying to convince the girl that she will enjoy it if does X, then Y, then just presses his penis against her, then just pushes it in a little bit, and then he says I'll pull out before I come. Then he doesn't.

That's, unfortunately, a very, very typical teen experience. And it's very difficult for the girl to "take responsibility" by insisting on a condom being used when she's not even sure that she's going to end up having sex, because she doesn't want to actually have sex but keeps being "persuaded" (coerced) into going further and further.

So the first chance she has to make her own call, it's too late and she needs the morning after pill.

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