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To bring up the subject of troll hunting *again*, and look for input please from MNHQ?

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WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 20/07/2017 05:08

I've read so many threads in the past couple of weeks that have been absolutely drowned out by troll hunting. Someone mentioned that they thought troll hunters were ruining Mumsnet and I couldn't help but agree.

I've been here for years, and this comes up fairly regularly, and every single time mnhq come back with the same response - troll hunting is NOT allowed. Report, and move on. It's not hard to understand, and what's even more fucking irritating at times, as it's often (not always) the same old names doing it over and over, like they think they're above the rules.

@MNHQ, are there actually any sanctions for people who continually do this? I know posts get deleted but it doesn't seem to be any deterrent, and even sometimes ends up in the whole thread being zapped, even in cases where HQ have stated that the OP is legit but the troll hunters with their smart assed, 'I'm so clever with my trolldar' comments have made it unsustainable. How is this fair?

I've been on the receiving end of mild troll hunting, and it's really fucking hurtful, particularly when the reason I've posted is because I'm upset to start with, and looking for advice or support.

So why do people seem to think that the rules don't apply to them? Arrogance? A need to be 'right' or not (god forbid), 'gullible'? Should there be a 'three strikes and you're out' type approach? I honestly don't know myself, but I just think it's horrible to see OP's with what could easily be a real, fucking horrible life situation, be shredded, when it's so easy to report and scroll by.

And before people come along to defend their right to troll hunt to 'save' vulnerable posters from giving too much of themselves - aren't we all adults, who can choose how much of our lives we wish to divulge without the need for knights in shining forum armour coming to our aid? (That's ignoring the fact that MNHQ's job, which they carry out regularly, is to remind us of exactly that).

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friendlysnakehere · 22/07/2017 17:26

Yes pynk some people can incredibly nasty on here and dress it up as 'straight talking'. No need for it and I do wonder how they behave in RL.

TheProspector · 22/07/2017 17:51

I agree that the troll hunters are worse than the trolls.

Some of the worse ones, who coordinate 'investigations' of individual posters have been around for five years or more, are still on MN. They haven't been banned at all.

pynk · 22/07/2017 17:55

ConstanceCraving

It isn't like Netmums pynk. Mumsnet has always had a lot of posters who are forthright and can come across as sharp to some people. It's not all fluffy kittens and rainbows

You've misunderstood what I'm saying. I don't want fluffy netmums stuff and I've no issue at all with people having opposing views and strong opinions - what I object to is posters who are nasty and unpleasant.

It's not difficult to disagree with somebody without coming across as 'sharp' so I presume that posters are usually doing it deliberately.

ConstanceCraving · 22/07/2017 19:22

Sometimes sharp is needed I guess.

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 23/07/2017 01:10

LtEve, I don't thing my post was passive aggressive aggressive (?), I was asking where the personal attacks were, as I don't believe there are any on this thread (if that's the post you mean, as I can't see the time on my own posts), and I am certainly by no means a goady fucker.

I am neither trying to protect, nor am on the side of trolls, whether they be 'funny' and certainly not when they are cruel and damaging.

If I seem impassioned to you then maybe I am but it's because I find it bloody infuriating that people get away with blatantly breaking the rules sometimes to the detriment of genuine, upset posters. And often delight in it. In their smug superiority. I have no wish to ignore/block you or whatever (even if I actually could), because like I said before I genuinely mostly respect your views but I thought your previous post to me was pretty shit.

Fwiw I have never actually said that troll hunters are worse than the trolls, but I do believe that they can be just as bad sometimes.

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ConstanceCraving · 23/07/2017 07:26

They don't get away with it though. Because people like you are quick to report them.

exLtEveDallas · 23/07/2017 09:52

No OP, I said your 1017 post was Passive Agressive - specifically: So can I just get it straight Einstein, are you specifically stating to MNHQ that you completely refute their rule and refuse absolutely to adhere to it, because you believe that your way and belief is better? How does that work exactly?

You getting PA over another poster explaining why she thought sometimes troll hunting was necessary does seem suspect to me. Anyone can disagree, but I see no need for the way you are choosing to do that, and that (in my personal opinion) comes across as suspicious.

I could be wrong, quite happy to accept that, but getting upset with me when you are the one that wrote the words I reacted to is a little 'off'.

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 24/07/2017 01:21

Ok, my times show as local (oz) so I wasn't sure what post you meant. Even so, with that post directed at Einstein - there was still no aggression, passive or otherwise intended. I honestly want to understand the mindset of someone who believes certain rules don't apply to them. Do they apply that elsewhere or only when troll hunting? How would it go if everyone just ignored all the talk guidelines because they felt they knew better?

I'm honestly not that bothered if I seem suspect to you, or my thoughts on troll hunting do. I've already said that I'm not 'on side' with trolls (and am most certainly not one myself) but that I think that troll hunting can be just as insidious and isn't the answer. Make of that what you will.

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WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 24/07/2017 01:23

As an aside, does anyone know why I can see times on some of my posts and not on others?

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