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Are kids more forthright nowadays?

24 replies

Shenanagins · 17/07/2017 20:08

We stay in an area where it's normal for kids to play out and go round to each other's to play- similar to when I was a kid and lovely to see.

However, my eldest has now come to an age where they are starting to be allowed out and with that we now have friends coming to the door.

Great, I thought but these children don't seem to have any boundaries, for example, I will catch them in the fridge, trailing food through the house, continuing to do things after they've been told not to.

So aibu to tell them off in a similar manner to my own dc, i.e. raise my voice and is this normal behaviour of children today?

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Groupie123 · 17/07/2017 20:10

How old are they?

RiverTam · 17/07/2017 20:16

I would absolutely tell of any child behaving in a way I deemed inappropriate in my house, and indeed do. If you have to tell them more than once then they can leave and go home.

In answer to your question, yes, I think children are far more forward about this kind of thing. I am usually shocked at the lack of manners shown by children over in play dates. If DD wasn't a one-and-only I'd stop doing them, tbh.

Shenanagins · 17/07/2017 20:17

7/8. They just seem so shocked at someone telling them off!

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pinkyredrose · 17/07/2017 20:18

swap 'forthright' for 'rude'.

Shenanagins · 17/07/2017 20:19

I was trying to be polite 😄. Guess I just wanted to know if this is pretty common these days.

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Believeitornot · 17/07/2017 20:20

My 7 year old isn't allowed out alone Shock

And he certainly wouldn't raid a fridge without checking.

AtleastitsnotMonday · 17/07/2017 20:21

I think as a first step it's fair to stop them and explain your house rules. But ones they know I'd have no problem in pulling them up if they break those rules.

RiverTam · 17/07/2017 20:21

I also think that's too young to be wandering from house to house, unless you live in a very small cul-de-sac.

TheMasterNotMargarita · 17/07/2017 20:25

That is not normal.
They are cheeky and rude.
At most I'd perhaps expect some whispers and inducing of host child to ask for treats for pals but absolutely not going into tje fridge themselves.
They need a stern talking to and wouldn't get back into my house unless they behaved!

Shenanagins · 17/07/2017 20:26

Small area, very safe and common for kids to do it.

Thing is I do explain the rules and then a few minutes later they will do exactly the same thing!

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TheMasterNotMargarita · 17/07/2017 20:29

So YANBU and I would actually just tell them they cant come in and why.

drinkingtea · 17/07/2017 20:29

We live in an area where kids play out and call for one another.

They are not like that at all!

We lived in America when I was small (late 70s) and my mum said visiting preschool children would help themselves from the fridge and use the phone without asking... I have memories from then but they're hazy, not sure whether the kids were unaccompanied or their parents smiled indulgently...

The kids here are polite - some can push boundaries but the only one who helped himself to good ways 3 year old, years ago, certainly 7 year olds know better! They go home for anything but water unless I offer - they only ask for water (kids who've called round on the off chance - obviously I cater for specifically invited kids).

We are abroad (Europe) but I can't see why the kids would be that different... Maybe they are though, some things are more old fashioned here.

I am also quite scary...

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GreeboIsACutePussPuss · 17/07/2017 20:32

If by forthright you mean rude with less boundaries, yes, they are. I've worked with kids that sort of age for 15 years and even in that time there is a noticeable difference in attitude. Parents seem to have more of a problem with their kids being told off now too, it's perfectly ok to tell them off when they are in your house.

Pengggwn · 17/07/2017 20:33

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drinkingtea · 17/07/2017 20:36

They call for each other from about 5 or 6 years old here - small very settled village of about 500 people (most years nobody moves in or out), 3 miles then to the next village... Obviously the 5 year olds only go a few houses down, older ones have the run of the village and cycle to the next. It's nice, everyone looks out for all the kids.

Rhubarbtart9 · 17/07/2017 20:37

I wouldn't shout at them. I'd just tell them to leave immediately if they went in the fridge knowing it was out of bounds.

Rhubarbtart9 · 17/07/2017 20:38

Send them away every time they rule break. They will soon tow the line

ThouShallNotPass · 17/07/2017 20:44

I swear could have written this OP.

My 2 DDs are now constantly having friends round and it's infuriating just how rude some of these kids can be.
Just the other day I had to ask tell off a child for riding my son's scooter around my house after being asked not to repeatedly. She is 11. Another was told to go home after throwing herself at a locked door trying to break it in. Another time she spat chewing gum onto my hall floor.
RecentlY an 8 year old got bored and walked inside the house (while DD2 was playing on the street outside), plonked herself down on the settee and picked up my iPad!

I sometimes wonder if I expect too much from my kids because DH and I seem to be raising them very differently to others.

Shenanagins · 17/07/2017 21:15

Ah well at least I know it's not just me! I will continue to tell them off and hopefully my kids won't think this is the way to behave in other people's houses!

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sowhatusernameisnttaken · 18/07/2017 13:00

I posted about the lack of manners on children these days the other day. I've heard children say "you're not in charge of me" etc - I wouldn't have dreamt of saying that to an adult when I was young. Parents let their kids get away with it though or think it's funny so they carry on doing it. Drives me mad

AmyGardner · 18/07/2017 13:26

Spat chewing gum onto your floor?? Shock Shock

Jesus, that kid's feet wouldn't touch the ground.

AnnPerkins · 18/07/2017 13:39

I think they are. We had two different boys come round last week after school. The first one had come for tea. When I called DS and his friend to wash their hands for dinner I got a stroppy 'All right!' from this boy.

He pissed about through dinner, tried to put his feet on the table, made annoying squeaky noises and corrected DH, which did not go down well Grin I couldn't wait for him to leave, frankly.

The second boy had invited himself to play. I took him and DS to the park and within 5 minutes they were over asking for money. I asked why and visiting boy said they wanted some sweets. I said I didn't have any money and he replied 'Can't you go home and get some?'

I've already decided we'll be busy next time he asks to come round.

drinkingtea · 18/07/2017 14:12

These examples aren't normal though.

In ten years of having a fairly open house to the kids' friends I've only met one child locally like that. His mum told me that he really wanted to come to ours to play with my dc3 (they met in the local playground and were playmates of convenience). I said ok and she sent him over(alone on foot) the next day and drove past waving 30 seconds later (away from her house). He was an absolute nightmare. He didn't play with DC3 at all but went around picking all the electronics (belonging to me, DH and dc1 and dc2) up and demanding to use them, tried to go into my bedroom and those of dc1 and 2 repeatedly despite being told they were off limits, and demanded to watch TV, play x box and be fed, all within 30 minutes of entering the house. Even he didn't help himself to good or open the fridge.

I told him he was here to play with DC3 and he commenced repeatedly telling me he was bored. I told him to go home then. He then went to play with DC3 for about ten minutes then came back to demand X box as a reward.

I told his mum when she came to pick him up and she said yes he can be difficult Hmm

It was a huge shock as almost every other child I've had round, amounting to 40 or 50 children over the last decade, has been no trouble and it's been easier to have extras than just my own as they go off and play.

I said no bluntly to further requests that he be allowed over to play. He invited dc3 over but then his mum cancelled 3 times in a row so dc3 never went there.

Finally she told me a couple of weeks ago (sixmonths on from the disaster playdate) all about his ASD diagnosis and how he's excluded from school while they wait for a place in a special unit with 6 children per class etc. He was diagnosed exceptionally early she told me, she has a 2 year old and said how dc1 was in the process of getting diagnosed at the same age, and how different the two children are...

The thing is I cannot get my head around why she didn't tell me before she let her child trot over alone to my house and drove off to the shops or wherever she went. If she'd forewarned me I could surely have been better prepared for managing his very difficult behaviour. I assume she was desperate for a break but I'm still Hmm that she knew what he'd behave like and didn't give me a heads up and a few tips on how to manage him

Mostly though having 5 or 6 kids in the house is easier than just my own as they amuse on another, and are no trouble. I happily left an 4 kids between 12 and 9 alone in my house for an hour at the weekend (2 were mine and the other two had been sleeping over parents were forewarned and said of course it's fine) while I took my youngest to his activity, and returned to find they'd tidied up brunch before starting the Wii bowling game I'd said they could play while I was out :o

ThouShallNotPass · 18/07/2017 19:13

About 10 minutes ago a child, a classmate of DS who DS isn't allowed to play with just walked into my empty house uninvited (door is unlocked due to my own DC running in and out all day) and into the bedroom where DH and I were talking/folding laundry. He rudely demanded to know where DS was as he wanted to play. I told him off for walking into my house and kicked his rude ass out.

As a PP said, not all kids are rude but my standards must be seriously high because I have found that it's becoming increasingly common.

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