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To be confused about Phonics screening test

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MuvaWifey77 · 14/07/2017 10:19

That's it really. Confused to why it exists? What's used for ? I was educated in a boarding School in Brazil , my son is now 6 so this is a new things for me...

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AuntieStella · 14/07/2017 12:50

It's simply a screening to see if pupils are secure with the skills of decoding text.

It's just standardising what good teachers did anyhow. There shouldn't be any surprises, and it's a way of checking early on which pupils may need extra help.

Snap8TheCat · 14/07/2017 12:51

It's pretty self explanatory to be fair...

MuvaWifey77 · 14/07/2017 13:04

Thanks austieStella, I'm still getting used to how school curriculum works in the uk... thanks .

Thanks snap8 . Obviously I know what it means , test phonics , the intuit of it it's not very clear . Get it?

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TeenAndTween · 14/07/2017 13:20

Muva It was introduced because the methods used by some schools (whole words, guessing from context/pictures) had led to some children who were perceived in infants to be 'good readers' stalling in juniors because they hadn't learned how to sound out words.

This meant the children couldn't read words they hadn't seen before and could for example confuse eclectic/electric/eccentric thus changing the meaning of what they were reading.

Sadly there are still some teachers/schools (and thus parents) who continue the myth that 'good readers get beyond phonics' / 'good readers fail the phonics test'. Which is why the screening is still needed. Schools which teach reading well don't have an issue with the phonics test.

Fl0ellafunbags · 14/07/2017 13:23

They read 40 words. Some of the words are alien words (made up), which they have to identify. If they get less than 32 right they are given additional support (in theory). Any teacher worth their salt would already have identified children in need of help but the government loves a test.

hibbledobble · 14/07/2017 13:26

Not much to add with the above, it's pretty simple and has been well explained.

Just to add that it is to monitor the school, and it should not stress children at all. My child wasn't even sure when she had had hers. A good reader will sail through it (as long as they have been taught reading with phonics).

TeenAndTween · 14/07/2017 13:40

Some of the words are alien words (made up), which they have to identify.

Just to clarify the above comment. The child is told whether a word is made up or not, they don't have to work that out for themselves. So there is no reason at all for them to try to shoehorn a made up word into a real one.

StarHeartDiamond · 14/07/2017 13:50

To clarify again Smile alien (made up) words are there as so the child cannot simply be reading memorised words.

Eg Pluke. (Ok I've not checked if it's made up or not but you get the drift). A child with good phonics experience should know that it sounds phonetically like "Plook" instead of "plucky".

The phonics test is there, like the SATS, to check the school not the child (although it does indicate if a child needs extra help). Who would argue with that? Confused back in my day, the good old 70s-80s, one school's "excellent" judgement of a child's ability/knowledge/learning was another school's "poor", due to lack of national standard.

amy85 · 14/07/2017 13:51

Kids read 40 words, some real some made up, to test if their phonics skills

SuperRainbows · 14/07/2017 14:00

Slightly off topic, but I have lots of lovely memories of primary school in the 70's.

I remember loads of art, craft, weaving, singing etc.

I don't remember ever feeling pressurised.

Primary school today is so tough on pupils and teachers. Ridiculous pressure makes for stressed out kids and the curriculum has become very narrow.

StarHeartDiamond · 14/07/2017 14:10

Super - my dd would love to go to a school where she did arts and crafts all day Grin

SuperRainbows · 14/07/2017 18:30

My fantasy land primary school Star... would have p.e. music, art, forest type activities etc every day with small amounts of formal work only when each child was ready. Learning should be enjoyable.

In the UK too much pressure is put on dcs to start reading before they are developmentally ready. They therefore find it much harder than if they started later as in most of the rest of the world.

arethereanyleftatall · 14/07/2017 21:10

Rainbows - my experience so far of my children's primary school (y1&3) is that there has been no pressure whatsoever on the children.
So, as far as I can tell, it's either different in different schools, or the pressure is only coming from individual parents, or the media is making it all up.

MuvaWifey77 · 23/07/2017 23:24

Thanks for everyone's messages I had a false alarm labour and thought was having my baby 7 weeks early ... phewwww ...so didnt check this... but thanks

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