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Is there something wrong with my parents or AIBU?

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loadoff · 11/07/2017 21:16

Ever since I had DS 5 months ago I started to realise there is something seriously off with my parents. To be more specific I think they are very selfish, perhaps even narcissistic.

They live about a 1000 miles away from us, so we don't get anything from them in terms of help with childcare. Not that I feel entitled to in the slightest, I just want to put it out there.

They are okay in terms of money, they contributed to some of the initial expenses such as pram purchase. They always make sure to give us money whenever we visit, and are happy to take us out for food etc, but it's important to say that we come maximum twice a year, and usually for about a week at a time.

So this time was the first time in 10 years when I and LO (5 months old) came to stay for more than a week. We were there for a month. My husband only joined for the last week.

All the time I was there my parents not once have offered to stay with the LO. Ok, that's fine. Of course they don't have to. But what upset me most is the complete lack of desire to spend any time with him, even as I was there doing the actual caring. My mom was going to work every day (she couldn't take time off to spend with us apparently, but was able to secure a few to attend her nephew's wedding in another town.) My dad, even though currently unemployed, would leave home every single day to go fishing. So I'd be home alone with a little child for days on end.

When we arrived the house was a total tip. They've always been messy (not to say slobs) but this time it's really become something special. I was really upset and a bit shocked they didn't feel like cleaning the place ahead of a little baby's arrival. Not only that, my mom asked me to clean the place when leaving for work each day. And I did when I could, but neither her or my father had any respect for my work upon returning home and would just continue throwing things around.

They would have their standard arguments every evening, shouting at each other. Then my dad would play his computer games and play the sound really loud, making it near impossible for the little one to fall asleep. When asked to turn them down, he sometimes would and other times wouldn't. Depending on his mood I guess. Then he'd ask me or my brother to go and fetch some beer / water / whatever from the shop.

They then wanted me and the LO to drive to the other side of the country with them (for the nephew's wedding) with zero concern for how this might affect either of us. Later on I heard that my dad wanted to brag to his dad at the weeding about his grandson (the one he wanted little to do with on a day to day basis.)

Now that we've left my brother has been diagnosed with a condition requiring a minor surgery and my mother got upset with him (!) because how dare he want/need this surgery now when she's just scheduled her holiday and wanted him to go with for company.

I just feel like everything is always about their needs and they are unable to empathise with anyone. They feel their needs are forever the most important and we all need to pander to them. I really don't like thinking that negatively about them. They are both highly educated, smart people who were always able to provide for us financially. But the longer I see how dismissive they are towards DS I can't help but feel let down. AIBU?

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MipMipMip · 11/07/2017 21:36

Sounds very difficult. I'm afraid I have nothing constructive to add but Flowers for you.

OlennasWimple · 11/07/2017 21:39

Have you had a read of the Stately Homes thread, OP? Might be worth seeing if anything on there chimes with your experiences.

user1499333856 · 11/07/2017 21:41

My relationship with my parents was awful. My dad died and my mother is even more of a pain than before. My therapist has helped me to create boundaries. For my own wellbeing.

Focus on your new baby. Hold them at arm's length. Let the dust settle. Smile and nod.

They have their own life going on. But so do you. It's hard when we realize our parents are no longer able to provide unconditional support. Sometimes we see that they never did.

Don't clean their house. Don't engage in their domestics. Only do what you are comfortable with. Don't expect support with your baby - eventually you'll be proud to know you did it by yourself. Don't visit for so long - it sounds toxic.

Good luck!

embo1 · 11/07/2017 21:41

No wonder you live 1000 miles away. Go home and never go back!!

WillRikersExtraNipple · 11/07/2017 21:43

Why would you stay with them a month?

crocodilesoup · 11/07/2017 21:47

Sounds awful. Whose idea was it for you to stay a month? That's a massive change to anyone's routine.
I think you just outstayed your welcome sadly.

ijustwannadance · 11/07/2017 21:50

Could you have not just gone home after a week?
I wouldn't bother going again or AirB&B somewhere to stay instead of their dump.

228agreenend · 11/07/2017 21:55

I don't actually think there is anything seriously wrong with them, except maybe poor hostessing skills.

My parents don't always tidy up when we visit. My dm's mantra is we are there to see them, not their house.

If you are staying for a month, they probably don't see you as a 'guest', but as a returning daughter. Therefore, they don't feel the need to make special concessions.

Also, if you are there for a month, then they don't need to take time off as they see you evenings and weekends.

i think the only fault I can see is that they don't spend enough time with your DS. Not necessarily babysitting (have you asked?), but just interacting.

Maybe instead of them offering, then maybe you should try to,be more proactive in getting them involved. Maybe they are waiting to be asked. They are obviously,proud of him, wanting to show off their new grandchild at the wedding.

Greyponcho · 11/07/2017 21:56

Urgh, YANBU to be annoyed... they had you skivvying for them & they made no effort.
Why should you always make the effort to make time for them? Them buying the pram is a superficial gesture (for more 'bragging rights' when scoring against other relatives Hmm ) - empty & without real meaning compared to taking your LO out for an afternoon or spend some quality time with him.
Focus on your family, not them.

user1499333856 · 11/07/2017 21:59

I can't stay at my mothers house for longer than a weekend. She also wants to be collected by my husband and driven over to Holland for extended 'visits' - if it was down to her weeks at a time. She is lazy, an alcoholic, opinionated, andcan fall out with her own shadow.

She phones multiple times a day, wherher I am at work or home. She doesn't care. We tell her nothing about our daily life and I don't leave my children with her. She was abusive to me as a child and teenager - she has reaped what she sowed. My entire adult life has been damaged by her/my dad's parenting.

I urge you to put yourself first. And never go for a month again.

Medeci · 11/07/2017 22:00

Why on earth did you stay for a month?
After not having much contact for 10 years this must have been stressful for everyone.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 11/07/2017 22:01

I would keep people like that at arms length (or to round that up 1000kms) Wink

I wouldn't stay for a month and as they are your parents, and there is 1000 kms between you the rest of the time, I'd consider saying something to them about how you were treated when you came to visit this time so that they wont be expecting a next time. If they want to stay in touch with you, supply them with the details of nearby B&B, AirB&B or hotels they can stay in if/when they visit you but for the time being, you're not going to travel to visit them.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 11/07/2017 22:02

Sorry, thought you said kilometers in your post - 1000 miles is even better Wink Wink

loadoff · 11/07/2017 22:44

Thank you all. I've gone for a month with a (clearly misguided) hope to reconnect the with the family and establish a deeper relationship with them. I thought having a cute little grandson will ignite some loving, caring emotion in them. The thing is, I don't remember them being that selfish when I was a child... But I start to think they most likely were it is just that I didn't know any different, internalised a lot and blamed myself. Now that I can compare how I feel about my child and how they act towards him and me it just strikes me how truly dysfunctional they are.

They were never more parents, my dad has always been very controlling, very verbally and sometimes physically abusive and mum just seemed forever overworked. But somehow I always believed they deep down cared and valued us, their children. Now it seems to me they only value us to the extend to which they get some benefit out of having us, be it better reputation, help with the house & chores, company etc. Up until this day my brother is being asked everyday to take their shopping upstairs, clean and tidy for them, get dad alcohol from the shop etc. He's only 19 and has his own problems, like never having a girlfriend and doing poorly at school but all they can do is just shout at him to "do better" with occasional swear words. No compassion, no help, nothing.

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loadoff · 11/07/2017 22:52

@user1499333856

"She is lazy, an alcoholic, opinionated, andcan fall out with her own shadow." that is my dad 100% - I'm sorry to hear your mom was like that, too. And their demands are never ending, aren't they? They never have anything nice or positive to say either.

@Greyponcho

You are very right about the propriety purchase being a "superficial gesture", I feel they are just not able to connect with us on any other level. I can't think of a single time from my childhood when my parents took any real interest in me beyond demanding top grades and ensuring I was healthy. All the while they themselves had toxic arguments every day, kept the house a tip and offered zero guidance

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Stressedout10 · 11/07/2017 23:16

Yanbu that sounds horrible so sorry for you 🌹 (would send a bunch of flowers but can't find it 😞)

Greyponcho · 19/07/2017 13:47

Just seen your update OP, sounds like you've come to a crap, but true realisation about the differences between how you view family should be (normal) and how they view family (providers of emotion to feed their narcissistic needs).
I guess you feel pretty rubbish & probably grieving for the relationship you missed out on and your little one will miss out on, but on the balance of things, there's still a net emotional gain for your DC to not know them, compared to knowing them and feeling crap as a result of knowing them.
Be kind to yourself and keep your distance from your parents, focus on the family that matters Flowers

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