To wonder if she is jumping the gun a bit?

[Lunchtimeburrito]

My cousin has a 7 yr old dd.
The dd has never been girly, she absolutely hates anything pink or sparkly and refuses to wear girls clothes or play with dolls and the like and prefers things like Spider-Man & Batman.
Because of this my cousin has decided that dd must be transgender and wants to take her to the gp to get her hormones etc tested!
Now, imo, if the dd is transgender then having a mum who is supportive is fantastic but I can't help but think that my cousin is jumping to conclusions and maybe making something out of nothing and surely the medical profession will not test a 7 year old for transgender issues but cousin is adamant her dd will probably want to be male in the future?!

Thanks empress god, I hope she doesn't take it that far!

Interesting that she seems to think something needs fixing with her (perfectly normal sounding) child rather than our society that will insist on gendering children to the extent that we perceive normal, healthy behaviour as a problem that requires intervention.

I hope the GP gets some help for your cousin because if anyone has a problem it's her, from what you've said.

Yes, what Tabasco said too ^^

Your cousin is bat shit crazy.

When I was 7 I hated "girly" stuff, preferred jeans to dresses and probably said I wished I was a boy on numerous occasions.

By the time I was a teen I still wasn't in to a lot of traditional "girly" stuff but I was in no way confused about my gender or sexuality - I knew I was female alright!

So basically all you're saying is that your cousin wants to take her daughter to the GP about this?

In that case, the GP will deal with it and explain to your cousin that 'tomboy' and 'transgender' are not the same thing. They won't just say 'Oh, OK, here's a load of hormone treatment and she's a boy now.' If the GP genuinely thinks there is a possibility that the child is transgender they'll refer them to a child psychologist to find out more.

Lots of people here are also 'jumping the gun' with their fury here. The story is 'mother wants to take her child to the GP to find out whether they have a condition'. Hardly a big deal. There are a million parents on here who are also jumping the gun in their assumptions that their child is autistic or ADHD or gifted or all manner of other things, with zero diagnosis. Some of those kids are those things, and it's confirmed upon further investigation. Some aren't, and professionals will make this clear to them. This is no different.

The problem IS definitely my cousins and not dd's, unfortunately. Cousin has other issues with dd and is constantly trying to get a label for something or other and she treats dd with kid gloves. The dd is well looked after but I can't help but think she isn't going to have an easy going childhood

dolly my concern though is even if gp says it's nothing, cousin is going to go on and on about it, I'm no expert but surely that can be damaging in one way or other in the long run?

Ah, the world has gone mad.

Could the cousin have that condition where she seeks attention by constantly thinking her DC needs medical attention of some sort?

Muchausens by proxy or something like that, probably barbara it has crossed my mind.

Poor kid. All these poor kids.

To me the only reason for the word gender is that many people don't like the word sex, because sex also means the act of sex. But gender has been butchered into something bizarre that is just a concept. And typically speaking a persons sex shouldn't be anything that matters in most areas for most people.

I'm still hoping that eventually this type of gender will become a thing of the past, but rather than combating gender it seems the majority just want a different gender label rather than denying any existence of it.

And if cousin finds some dreadful pro-transgender group that "takes her seriously" when the GP hasn't? What then?

Well after reading the link to the article empress gave, I'm just glad she doesn't live in the states where some money grabbing 'doctor' will agree with cousin and happily inject god knows what hormones into the dd.

Christ. This is insane. Let the little girl be herself with her individual interests. Madness so start labelling her a boy. In fact I think it's child abuse.

This is nuts, I hated and continue to hate pink, glitter, bling, girly - I loved batman but I never felt anything other than 100% female.

I didn't play with dolls either but I had a Sindy horse that I adored, a horse without a rider that I spent my time brushing and tacking up and cleaning out his imaginary stable.

Your cousin is worried about her daughter so a trip to the GP is actually a good idea - it doesn't mean that the GP will suddenly arrange a sex change, it just means she will receive advice!

What advice can GP give? 'Yes Batman is cool and anyone can like him?'

Gender is not the same as sex though Peach.

Gender is a social construct, sex is biological fact.

Gender is society deciding girls wear skirts but not boys; that men are the breadwinners while women look after the home; boys like rough and tumble and climbing trees, while girls like playing imagination based games.

Sex is simply whether someone is a man/boy or a woman/girl.

The two terms are quite distinct although often used interchangeably.

She sounds bonkers. As a child I hated makeup/nail varnish/dresses etc I was out climbing trees, dike(stream) jumping getting covered in mud. I certainly don't want to be a man I've given birth to three children. People are becoming way to obsessed with children needing to be trans. My daughter some times pretends to be a dog doesn't mean she can be one or that she actually wants to be one.

I agree with your point about genderisation and gender stereotyping though.

I'm also wondering if I've misinterpreted the first part of your post and we're making the same point?

I think it's likely she is hugely jumping the gun. This kind of thing - young and impressionable children being made to think they are not "normal" because they don't conform to the expectations society has set for them (girls like pink sparkly things, boys like Spiderman) - really worries me.

Dds both like batman and shit there hormones are fine btw they are adult women they didnt need to be girly to be girls. I liked starwars and xmen cartoons and trousers as a kid i was told they were not for girls now girls are being told they are transgender fuck me

Isn't the whole concept getting just a bit out of hand?

FWIW, I never had a doll. I chose woodwork/metalwork at school over needlework and cookery. I pestered my Dad to take me to watch football when I was 11—and I still go every Saturday.

I'm 50 now and my appearance, complete with shaved head, may be considered somewhat androgynous. And yet, underneath it all, I'm probably one of the most feminine people out there. Those who REALLY know, or just 'get' me, know that.

Let the little girl enjoy her childhood unfettered by adults' obsessions with 'labelling' everything .

S x

I was just like this at 7! I actually wanted to be George from the Famous Five, I wanted a boys' name, short hair and a dog and an island of my own. I just wasn't interested in 'girls' toys or clothes. How ridiculous to take her to the doctors! She's just a child who likes what she likes!

Your cousin is jumping the whole frigging firing range. What she is doing is potentially harmful to her DD too, she should just let the kid be FFS.