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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or am I just being picky and need to get a life?

83 replies

FlowerSour · 10/07/2017 11:31

I was on Facebook about ten minutes ago and some of the grammatical errors bother me so much. Maybe I sound like an old cow, but is it terrible that if anyone is posting anything serious or arguing a serious point, I instantly judge them if their grammar is poor?

I'm thinking of things such as:

no know
has bin has been
dats all right that's all right
We r with u we are with you

I also hate the shortening/changing of words. Like "hols" instead of "holiday." "Jammies" instead of "pyjamas." And the worse... "Famalam" instead of family. It makes me cringe even writing that.

I think I probably am being unreasonable.

Very unreasonable.

But I shall ask anyway- AIBU? Grin

I don't mind if you think I'm an old cow, as I probably am these days! And it will also be ironic if I've committed a grammatical sin in this post.

OP posts:
swimmerforlife · 10/07/2017 12:48

I try my best but I am dyslexic, so maybe not judge me on my grammatical skills (or lack of). If I am in a rush, my post have a few grammatical errors.

That said I do agree with god awful words such as 'famalam', I despise 'hollibobs'.

Brahms3rdracket · 10/07/2017 12:49

Yanbu, illiterate bastards Grin

swimmerforlife · 10/07/2017 12:51

^see above, I've realised I left out 'will' in my second sentence. It's an everyday struggle, I have a degree yet people still judge me because I don't have the correct apostrophe or forget words.

Ceto · 10/07/2017 12:52

I don't care - if the message gets across then that is fine.

I think that's the problem though, often it doesn't. It is really difficult to pick your way through a message which is full of things like "no" for "know", "been" for "being", "dat" for "that", "use" for "you" etc. I agree this is partly down to education, but it is very clear that no school ever teaches children all these things and some are deliberate choices on the part of the writer who knows perfectly well what the correct term should be. I think there comes a point when it plain bad manners not to try to make yourself reasonably clear - you are saying you can't be bothered, and it is fine for the other person to have to make all the effort to understand you.

ppeatfruit · 10/07/2017 12:53

Wiii Are you aware that Shakespeare spelt his name differently almost very time that he wrote it ?. Spelling was very fluid before the typeface was invented.

Ceto · 10/07/2017 12:53

The one I hate on FB is when total strangers call me "hun". I always want to respond asking them not to, but hesitate because it will sound prissy. But I am not anyone's hun! Has anyone else come up with a polite way of stopping this?

ppeatfruit · 10/07/2017 12:55

I meant "every" time that Shaakespeare wrote it. Oh dear Grin

WillRikersExtraNipple · 10/07/2017 12:55

Yes, I'm aware. But I wasn't talking about spelling so much as the dumbing down apparent in modern language use.

Hissy · 10/07/2017 12:56

Get a better level of friend set OP :D

None of my lot trot any of this crap out on their FB stuff

I also LOATHE hun, and like you Ceto ponder setting someone straight if I get it said to me.

ppeatfruit · 10/07/2017 12:57

OMG double 'a' ! My excuse is that the 'A' tile is missing on my laptop!

WillRikersExtraNipple · 10/07/2017 12:59

What is it with the near ubiquitous hunning? I had to leave one group where it was used like punctuation...posts like "I no hun iss no fair u neva did noting hun an he shud neva of done dat ting hun god love ye hun xxx".

Talk like a fucking normal person, hun!

Janeinthemiddle · 10/07/2017 13:00

YANBU!!!

Can I add some to the list?

Should of should have
Pacific specific
Alot a lot
Ect etc

HappyFeetAgain · 10/07/2017 13:00

Yanbu it just reflects how someone really speaks and their grammar. People who use it correctly don't just switch off just because it's social media. I honestly think it makes them sound dumb.

chirpyburbycheapsheep · 10/07/2017 13:04

My ears hurt when someone says 'get it off of me' or 'get X off of the shelf'. I just find the 'of' so unnecessary and makes the whole sentence sound clunky and unpleasant.

I've noticed a lot of 'loose' instead of 'lose' on here recently. I say nothing. I don't want to be 'that' person. -But I so am 'that' person and am reduced to regular rage in my daily life-

chirpyburbycheapsheep · 10/07/2017 13:05

so my Strikethrough didn't work. Thanks for undermining my post mumsnet.

swimmerforlife · 10/07/2017 13:05

Oh ffs.

Do people think I'm thick as pig shit because I get confused with my 'k' and 'n'. People judge me instantly? I wasn't diagnosed as a dyslexic until University, a lack of support during my key schooling years has meant I still struggle to write with correct grammar and spelling.

But can I point this out, I rarely write anything on fb these days because of of small minded pedantics.

Fwiw, I re read that post a total of 3 times before clicking 'post' to make sure it was correct.

BabyShock · 10/07/2017 13:06

I dont think its unreasonable to be astounded and worried by the level of literacy that our children are leaving school with. If we cant understand one another through written word then we cant communicate, and thats the way its going; I have to read sentences a few times to get the meaning as there is no punctuation, improper syntax, and outlandish spellings which obscure the meaning. Soon literacy is going to be an esoteric skill that the masses dont possess, and thats scary because a) we wont be able to communicate, and b) I dont think its possible this has occurred by accident.

5moreminutes · 10/07/2017 13:08

Language changes over time, but some of the changes seem more akin to decay than evolution...

My pet hate at the moment is "I'm excited for [insert event]" No you bloody well aren't, you are excited about the event! "Excited for" means "excited on behalf of".

Obviously someone can be can be "excited for" her sister, who is graduating from university next week because it's so fantastic, but "so excited for my sister's graduation" is idiotic - the graduation is an abstract concept or an event, you cannot feel things on it's behalf!

It's impossible to see the removal of the phrase "excited about" from the language and it's replacement with a less clear phrase which has a different meaning as evolution, because it makes language less rich and clear. It's de-evolution.

5moreminutes · 10/07/2017 13:11

Two UK primary school teachers (neither young enough for that to be an excuse) post "I'm so excited for [event]" regularly on my fb - I've hidden them both as I was afraid that one day after a glass of wine I'd write a twattish reply...

BeyondThePage · 10/07/2017 13:13

c. 1591, William Shakespeare, Henry VI, part 2, First Folio 1623, III.1:

Card. What, art thou lame?
Simpc. I, God Almightie helpe me.
Suff. How cam'st thou so?
Simpc. A fall <strong>off of</strong> a Tree.

"off of" in place of from or off, has a fine literary pedigree...

ShotsFired · 10/07/2017 13:16

@swimmerforlife Do people think I'm thick as pig shit because I get confused with my 'k' and 'n'. People judge me instantly?

No, there is a huge difference between accidental typos/mistakes/dyslexia/combination of above that sets it apart from actual shit writing like @WillRikersExtraNipple posted: "I no hun iss no fair u neva did noting hun an he shud neva of done dat ting hun god love ye hun xxx"

WillRikersExtraNipple · 10/07/2017 13:17

Nothing ungrammatical about off of, it's just usually shortened to off for concision. It's more common in US english, which makes sense when you know that many US usages are rooted in the English that went to America with the first colonists.

ppeatfruit · 10/07/2017 13:20

I must admit it does annoy me too Willi I just avoid FB when possible. What I have noticed is that , when I'm texting, I don't use many abbreviations, and I've noticed that my family and friends improve their usage too Grin.

Also I reckon that the general standard of grammar etc. on Mumsnet has improved since I began posting! I'm not taking credit for it though Grin

swimmerforlife · 10/07/2017 13:25

shots, thanks for that, I suppose a few posts on here have pointed out quite of few errors that I know I make and I feel like I am instantly being judged. I'm feeling quite sensitive today so maybe I'm overreacting.

I don't think this is the thread for me.

Goldenhandshake · 10/07/2017 13:37

I am a bit pedantic with spellings too, but only really obvious ones. 'Loose' instead of 'Lose' sets my teeth on edge, but today the wonder I saw was....(drum roll)....... 'in joy'.... instead of 'enjoy'.

I despair.