Bonus/overtime

[Stressalot42]

I've started a new thread as my first was really badly worded!

So I've handed in my notice ..... hooray!!

Before I handed in my notice, I did a vast amount of extra hours to meet a deadline, including weekends. I insisted before I did the last weekend that they confirm how they would remunerate me. I got an email basically saying....

Due to recognition of your significant and appreciated over the past six months we are awarding you a discretionary bonus of £100000000. This will be paid at the end of July.

So it's due for hours worked historically, but it's discretionary.

Should I fight to get this paid?

Can I ask why, if you'd negotiated extra hours in return for this bonus , did you resign before u got it?

My employers make my life intolerable! I've worked hours and hours over, work load for three, give me priorities then when I stick to them complain other stuff not done.

It is never ever what I've done, it's what I've not done.

I walked out of the office in tears, due to being literally screamed at for something I was deemed not to have done. I was actually in tears. Went to a coffee shop, spoke to a friend in the industry.

Got a new job!

Didn't want to be here five minutes longer than need be.

I wasn't trying to be rude By the way OP I was just curious
Sounds like you've worked hard and hung on and also negotiated a bonus but now I fear youve lost leverage by resigning in afraid
Chalk it up to experience and not wasted cos at least now you know what you want from a job and employer and what you are and are not willing to put up with
Don't dwell on it as I don't think you'll get it
However it's certainly worth asking with the email you received in tow

Do look at the case law. I am a lawyer. Although people above are correct that in most cases when you give notice any discretionary bonus is not paid there have been cases where it was more clearly agreed it woudl be given and here (for extra hours works) seems to me they have exercised their discretion and agreed it with you. They have not said if in future you work extra hours might be awarded a bonus. Look at how much it is for and if it is worth a fight over it and then write them a clear letter emailed to HR setting out the basis on which it is due quoting the case law where relevant, exact date it was agreed - eg on 5 May Mr XYZ, my line manager said (or wrote in email attached) we agree to pay you XYZ bonus as you have said you will only work weekends if you are paid this sum... make it clear, short paragraphs and say you expect [ set out exact sum] (presumably they will take tax and NI off it) with your final payment and if not you will have to take the matter further as you are advised it is a legally binding obligation. Have they said they won't pay it or are there emails saying you will only be paid this if you are still working with us on XYZ date? If so you probably will not get it.

Oh expat, I didn't think you were, honestly!

Lucy, they haven't said they won't, but it's their style not too! If that makes sense. It somehow isn't about the money, it's about principle?

Maybe I'm talking rubbish and they will surprise me.

They don't have an HR department and seem to run roughshod over employment laws.

I will write if the don't pay, just as you've advised! X

Without knowing your wage/bonus and how many hours you actually worked, are you in the position where not paying it would drop you below the minimum wage? If so I'd definitely challenge it if you were not paid.

I think you're right though - if you have a better position to go to just chalk it up to experience (unfortunately a bad one!) and be grateful you don't have to work for these muppets anymore.

After they have given references then make sure the rest of the staff know what happened!!

Little, no I don't fall into that category!

I think I will send a letter, but won't get stressed about it if I don't get paid.

I would love the money though.