What if you find family and friends politics unpalatable?

[malificent7]

Love my family and best ftiend but i find their politics unpalatable.
My dad is anti immigration ( his girlfriend ix an immigrant though) Im getting fed up of his rants
Both him and my best mate are Torx brexiteers and hate socialism.
Im a socialist remainer.

I have go keeo my distance. I gave to say i feel resentful to them for voting for ideologies tbat i hate.

Tory sorry

Dont talk about it ?

Listen, say 'mm' a lot. There will always be areas of common ground. E.g. you might agree that it's bad news that the UK sucks so many trained professionals away from the countries that paid to train them, or that some migrant workers are exploited by gangmasters and employers that turn a blind eye if they can. There will be sectors and industries that do benefit from Brexit because nothing is wholly bad. He might agree that the monarchy is going to wobble when the Queen dies. Then talk about other stuff.

Maybe look into the Lexit views? You don't have to agree with them but the EU is hardly a sicialist paradise per se (and I'm a remainer).

I agree, make the topic off-limits. I don't talk politics with any family members or friends. I'm hugely interested and well-educated in politics, but I don't support any party. I think many people take your political stance personally. There isn't really much room for that in families, it's so important to get along together if you can.

There is a similar problem within my family with my aunt and her husband. It is regarding a particular political issue that they have no direct knowledge of but feel very strongly about (not mentioned in the OP, cannot discuss as local and outing). It is not something that affects them but they are obsessed and bring it up without prompting. Cue long, loud, angry rants.

When they start I just walk out of the room because they don't listen and are not interested in conversation - they just like to rant and get worked up about it. Again it's something they have little knowledge of and has no impact on their lives.

I choose not to engage with them as far as politics is concerned. TBH they don't need an audience for their soapbox speeches anyway and I think life is too short for me to have to put all with all their negativity.

Luckily all our family are life long Tories (well apart from university where you have to experiment with weird shit😂😜😜). Sister in law a labour supporter still (but thos is the least of her faults tbh). A few friends that are labour supporters that are so easy to wind up I just confuse them with reasoned debate😁. Lib dem friends are less in your face and can usually enter into a reasoned and informative debate which is a good way to pass some pleasant time. But yes usually lovers of JC are usually beyond understanding anyone else's view point so lay themselves open to having the piss taken out of them

Doesn't everyone have this pr9blem? Just don't talk about it, no good can come of it.

I have a lot of raving leftie friends. I just roll my eyes at them and change the subject

Just don't talk about it. There are plenty of other topics to discuss - try religion

I wouldn't want to be your friend MaxandRuby.

Me and dh avoid politics with his family.. it never ends well.. we are so far apart with our views and never agree. Brexit discussion ended up with mother in law crying. Since then we don't discuss it.

I thought goady posts were at least supposed to be subtle, Maxandruby?

Two options: make non-commital noises and change the subject as soon as possible, or fight back. I used to do the latter, but I can't be bothered anymore. It's not like they are going to change their minds because of anything I say.

It gets harder when the line is blurred between the political and the personal. Dp's family are pro/Brexit anti-immigration whilst I am the child of an immigrant. When they said that they voted UKIP because 'the country is becoming overrun with 'them'' I always feel like saying 'with people like me you mean.' I'm sure they'd say that was different, because I've integrated. My family are also quite right wing, always talking about how people on benefits get given everything for nothing, which I know not to be true as I'm on them!

I'm a tory brexiteer and every one of my friends and family is a socialist.
We just never ever talk about politics, it's better that way as everyone just gets pissed off. there are plenty of other things to talk about, there is no need to foist politics on everyone you know. I don't.

I'm a Scottish no voter in a passionate yes family. I just sit quietly and let them get on with it. Neither of us will be changing our minds so debate is futile.

i find people who cant accept we live in a democracy and therefore allowed to vote whichever way we want unpalatable tbh.

You sound a delight MaxandRuby

I have some friends who are Tories and some who are Lib Dem, Greens and Labour supporters.
IME it is the Tories who are most arrogant in their opinions - calling Labour supporters 'Trots' or 'Naive' or 'Loony Left' and Lib Dem / Green as 'Irrelevant'.
Lib Dem, Green and Labour supporters can be pretty passionate in their beliefs but again ime more respectful and interested in understanding why someone would choose to vote Conservative.

I have had to stop talking to some of my Tory friends about politics because I couldn't stand their arrogant assumptions and patronising manner [some of which seemed to have been taken wholesale from the Daily Mail rather than reasoned debate but hey ho]

I would find it hard too OP, because those beliefs are so fundamentally different to mine. It would shake how I saw those people. Brexit & socialism - OK we can debate, but anti-immigration beliefs based on racism? No, I couldn't ignore that and would distance myself.

Rubyandmax, I wouldn't want to be your friend either. Very goady.

I gave to say i feel resentful to them for voting for ideologies tbat i hate

I'm going to point out something I see on every forum I read. socialists forever ram their opinions down other peoples throats, have zero tolerance that anyone else may hold a different opinion. Actually I'd use the word 'rabid' when socialists start espousing politics.

I don't ever recall ever seeing similar baiting by those with conservative leanings.

And I'll point out, as I'm prone to doing, this is a democracy. Your opinion is not more valid than mine.

Don't feel too bad about it all, OP, half my family think the Big Orange Cheeto is here to save the world.

I definitely do not talk about politics with them.

I know twins one voted labour one conservative. They don't care what the other voted.

Why do you talk about it?

In actual fact when it comes down to it most people want the same thing it's just parties think they can go about it differently.