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To astro turf my garden?

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hibbledobble · 04/07/2017 14:12

I put beautiful turf down and it's sadly looks like the pennines now: bumpy and lots of dead patches.

Astro turf would mean minimal maintenance and would look good, not good for environment though and pricey.

Wibu to astro turf it? If not, how does one maintain a lawn?

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RolfNotRudolf · 05/07/2017 09:07

OP - no way does my lawn take 3 hours a month, even when we mow it twice a month. And you need to factor in the time spent hoovering, washing and bleaching plastic.
You may be better off spending the money you would be spending on plastic getting a decent job done of returfing.
For the record, I hate slabbed and decked gardens too Smile

RolfNotRudolf · 05/07/2017 09:10

And I realise a wild-flower meadow brings in extra considerations, but that doesn't alter the fact that a normal real lawn does not require more maintenance than plastic.

Spikeyball · 05/07/2017 09:11

Plastic requires no maintenance.

Writerwannabe83 · 05/07/2017 09:13

If you like it you like it, but for me I couldn't be sitting there in the summer looking at my plastic grass and pretending it was real.

Pretend it's real? Grin

I think we know it's not real grass Grin

If I wasn't so scared of someone recognising my garden I would put up before and after photos of my A.T garden because the 'before' photo is a very good example of why having a 'wildlife reserve' as a garden is not always pleasant Grin

I wanted a garden that was functional for us as a family and one we could enjoy using and that's why we did it.

My mom has a gorgeous natural garden with beautiful trees and flowers and shrubs etc and yes, it looks lovely, but she spends hours on it most weekends to keep it looking so nice and a lot of people just can't make that commitment.

Me and my DH absolutely hate gardening and I dislike sitting/walking on grass/mud/soil etc so having A.T was the obvious solution. We may get a few potted plants for our decking but that will be it in terms of adding but some nature to our plastic garden Smile

NerrSnerr · 05/07/2017 09:14

I am very excited about getting my little patch of plastic. Our garden is a grey gravelly mess at the moment so not digging up a lawn for it. We are slowly making raised beds etc as well though.

I think most people help the environment in some ways but very few people do everything. I don't know many people who never buy from china, don't fly long haul, don't drive, use reusable nappies and sanitary stuff and only buy from local shops etc etc, most do some of it. I find it annoying when people shout out 'what about the environment??' When their other choices are not the most green.

NerrSnerr · 05/07/2017 09:16

And I doubt my AstroTurf will smell like dog piss as we don't have a dog, and I have never seen a cat in our garden. I have a 2 year old though so I reckon it will get pissed on at some point!!

moggle · 05/07/2017 09:22

We had a similar decision last year. We mvoed into a house with a neglected, horribly bumpy small triangular garden full of moss, as we have large oak trees which shade our garden for most of the day. It's great for kids playing outside in as after about 11am I don't need to put sunscreen on DD but grass just dies. We needed to level the garden and rip out lots of stunted diseased shrubs and there was a tiled area at the end which was in a terrible state... and then the decision was do we lay down new turf and spend hours and ££ watering it, fertilising it, keeping it nice, etc, and probably still only have it last a few years, or get astroturf. Our DD was 18m so we hopefully had many years of small children playing out there (so a meadow is not realistic especially in our super shaded area), we plan to stay in this house long term, and we have little time to spend on maintenance - i would much rather spend the time tending flowers and looking after a vegetable garden than grass. We went for the astroturf and at the same time got a custom made long border from Woodblocx which we have filled with insect loving plants and then at the tip of the triangle we have a veg patch which currently has carrots ,peas, beans, courgettes and salad in. The patio has tomatoes, cucumbers and yet more flowers and some fruit bushes in pots. The garden is full of bees and insects!

The astroturf has been great, as someone else said it looks pretty real from the windows but once you get close you can see it isn't (and in a drought when everyone else's lawn is a different colour!). Most of the time the colour is exactly the same as NDN lawn. DD can run in and out all day and we don't get mud everywhere. it is low maintenance, the only maintenance we really have to do is due to the trees - DH rakes over it every weekend or so (obviously more work in the autumn), and ridiculously I think we will need to actually hoover it at some point because of all the little bits of leaf litter that are getting down into the "pile" which will give a medium for weeds or tree seeds to sprout eventually.

With our little corner of suburban garden I don't feel so bad about the lack of wildlife aspect, especially as the choice for us was plain turf or astro turf; as I said, we planned the long border and other plants to try and make up for it and I would say that our garden now with astroturf and loads of new flowers and plants has much more life in it than it did as a patch of mossy turf and half dead old shrubs. What I felt bad about was the huge slab of plastic I was buying and which will eventually (hopefully not for 15-20 years) have to go into landfill. Although it seems a huge amount, when I look at the amount of plastic we get through as a household each month, even as a fairly conscious consumer who does try to minimise packaging waste, always looks for secondhand first when buying things ... that slab of plastic doesn't seem so bad, over it's expected lifespan.

Anyway. That's our point of view on it. It was expensive (especially with a triangular garden!) but it was definitely the right decision for us.

moggle · 05/07/2017 09:26

I don't know why you'd need to wash or bleach artificial turf!! I guess if you had a dog and children maybe you'd get the watering can out to rinse any soiled area immediately after removing any solids but we certainly don't need to wash ours! The rain does that... and I imagine bleach wouldn't be great for it?
The cats started off treating it like carpet and scratching at it but a few well aimed squirts of water and that soon stopped.

Bluntness100 · 05/07/2017 09:30

Plastic requires no maintenance

Of course it does, haven't you even read the thread? It needs hoovering or brushing, washing down, or even disinfecting if you have animals. And unlike natural lawn which you don't really touch in the winter, it will need it all year round.

As for the poster who said her mum spends hours on her garden every weekend, I fail to see your point, very few people spend hours on their lawn every weekend. Your mum is clearly a keen gardener and is doing more than mowing ( or hoovering) her lawn.

Barbie222 · 05/07/2017 09:32

It's good to see that lots of Astro turfies are trying to get a few plants and flowers into their garden somewhere to offset the damage done by not allowing wildlife to properly use the lawn space.

There's a lot of "not my problem" about the environment on this thread though. And whoever said that they don't like insects - presumably you're not bothered about eating any honey, fruits, veg, wheat, poultry or other animal products either, then? Hmm

Saz467 · 05/07/2017 09:32

Horrible horrible stuff. Our house had it when we moved in and it was awful- got covered in bird poo, looked so naff and was terrible for wildlife. It was also tickly and sweaty to sit on. Now have real grass and the garden looks a million times better.

Hitmonlee · 05/07/2017 09:35

I love mine. Had it done 4 years ago and garden still looks perfect. My garden is north facing so was constantly damp and muddy. We had drainage put in and it's now dry 20 mins after a heavy shower.

I'd say go for it. No cutting just a quick blast with my leaf blower/Hoover and we are good to go. The only downside is we don't have a washing line because you can't cut holes in it ( according to my builder who may have been talking absolute shit because he was too lazy to do it )

Bluntness100 · 05/07/2017 09:37

I don't know why you'd need to wash or bleach artificial turf!!

Because people are saying if you have a dog it can start to smell, it also collects dirt and bird shit, which the rain won't wash away, so power washing it keeps it clean.

It really is all there in the thread.

RolfNotRudolf · 05/07/2017 09:37

A poster upthread says her dog pisses on it and she then applies dettol, and the combination causes a foul stench - so clearly a lot of plastic turfers do apply bleach.
And I'm really not getting all the worry about maintaining grass - it's very low maintenance unless you want to replicate the centre court at Wimbledon and have perfectly aligned stripes.

Barbie222 · 05/07/2017 09:40

I have lots of trees - live by a motorway so don't want to lose them - so one day I just started telling myself that I didn't have a lawn, I actually had a wood. Since then the garden's looked fine with little maintenance. Job done!!

FuckingSausageFingers · 05/07/2017 09:40

Your lawn, your choice. I just think they look really fucking naff.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 05/07/2017 09:41

Why are people so obsessed with looks and that it's tidy? Since when is being able to hoover your garden a thing?

A bit of muck is good for your immune system.

Please don't wrap your garden in plastic. You will be killing the natural habitat of insects, birds and other wildlife. They have it hard enough as it it.

Tasparrot · 05/07/2017 09:42

My garden is mostly slabbed. Except one area for the dogs, I salvaged a strip of Astro turf from a neighbours skip. I brush it to get leaves off, spray with pet friendly disinfectant and hose it down. Before I had spent lots of money laying turf but it never took.

Writerwannabe83 · 05/07/2017 09:43

As for the poster who said her mum spends hours on her garden every weekend, I fail to see your point, very few people spend hours on their lawn every weekend. Your mum is clearly a keen gardener and is doing more than mowing ( or hoovering) her lawn.

It was me and I was only making the point that some people love gardening and want to spend the time on them whereas others just simply don't. Our garden was such a state......simply mowing it every month made no difference to its awful appearance except all the muddy patches and dead grass was more obvious.

Barbie - Our priority was for me, DH and DS to "properly use the lawn space" - not the wildlife. We didn't want a crappy, dead, ugly, muddy garden that we never used but one that we could look at and think, "It's fine though that we don't want to be out there because this way the insects can properly use it and that's more important" Grin

moggle · 05/07/2017 09:44

You do if you have a shady garden or poor drainage, ours just sprouted more moss as fast as you could get rid of it and we could never get grass seed to grow in the bare patches no matter what we tried. It would have needed work to improve the drainage (we got standing pools on the lawn even in average winter rainfall) and then ongoing aeration / sand applying every year to keep it well drained. That's even if you're happy letting it go brown in the summer and not keeping it watered (I never bothered with that after I watered the lawn one summer in our old house and then got the town's entire population of moles in our back garden). I never really understood why we had standing pools of water in the winter but in the summer it couldn't seem to hold onto rainfall at all.
I know lots of people do seem to have lovely lawns that stay looking nice year after year without maintenance (I was in yorkshire at the weekend and saw lots of beautiful green lawns, I was rather jealous) but we aren't all so lucky.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 05/07/2017 09:44

With our little corner of suburban garden I don't feel so bad about the lack of wildlife aspect,

One little corner and second little corner and a third quickly add up.
We really ought to be trying to use less plastic and fewer plastic products.

We are drowning in plastic. Ocean wildlife is dying because of it.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 05/07/2017 09:45

Your lawn, your choice. I just think they look really fucking naff.

I think a badly kept lawn looks fucking naff so each to their own.

Dowser · 05/07/2017 09:48

Interested in this.
I have a decking in our small patch of patio at the back. I miss the green and am thinking of fake grass.

Something needs to be done to the decking and really can't face jet washing/ painting again.

No real lawns will be killed in this experiment.

Writerwannabe83 · 05/07/2017 09:51

dowser - when I had my garden done the company asked me if I wanted my decking Astro-turfed too and I was like Shock - people actually do that?!

He said it's really common to have the decking covered with A.T these days which surprised me.

Bumpsadaisie · 05/07/2017 09:51

I think it is an appalling idea. Sorry !

When it's warm doesn't it get all sweaty and plasticky? How can you enjoy feeling the grass in your toes!

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