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To be disappointed with The Handmaid's Tale ending (the book)

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Buck3t · 02/07/2017 07:03

Nothing has been resolved. It's infuriating me. Reminds me of how I felt at the end of Stephen King's Gunslinger series.

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WankYouForTheMusic · 02/07/2017 09:00

And yet undersecretary there are things in the TV series that are pretty grim that aren't in the book. FGM for example.

Buck3t · 02/07/2017 09:02

Kitkat I'll be finishing that off tonight then! Loads of ironing. I too have access to the series.

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Buck3t · 02/07/2017 09:03

Damediazepam or just a complete ending.

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SmileEachDay · 02/07/2017 09:05

It is a complete ending.

Buck3t · 02/07/2017 09:06

wankyouforthemusic (sorry couldn't just call you wank.)
I just read it for the first time.

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Largebucket · 02/07/2017 09:08

I read an interview the other day with someone connected with the series (can't remember who but they were instrumental to the process hence being interviewed). They suggested that there could be lots more series telling the stories of the other characters such as what the commanders life is like including what he does at work, the story of the aunt, etc. It didn't sounds like it was necessarily going to be a linear "what happens next" approach. I'm relieved to hear that Margaret Atwood is directly involved because I thought that had the power to dilute her message if an extended picture of her universe was painted by someone else.

Buck3t · 02/07/2017 09:08

Smile not for me and others. Someone actually mentioned upthread MA didn't know what happened to Offred. Assuming with season 2 she has a good hopefully idea now.

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UndersecretaryofWhimsy · 02/07/2017 09:10

Hmm, the TV series is obviously a very different proposition WankYou. I fully intend to watch it, just haven't got around to it yet, but I can't help but be worried that they are working up to some kind of happy ending that would seriously dilute the power of the message. They obviously have Atwood's buy-in, which is encouraging. I guess I'll just have to watch it and see.

Seriously though, how could Moira ever escape??

Buck3t · 02/07/2017 09:12

Great discussion people. Love hearing other ideas. Have to get all fluffy and teach some yoga. Haven't even showered yetShock

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Pengggwn · 02/07/2017 09:12

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SmileEachDay · 02/07/2017 09:14

Smile not for me and others

It's not the ending you would choose.

But in terms of the message that book carries? It's a complete ending.

UndersecretaryofWhimsy · 02/07/2017 09:17

From the Centre yes, but that's how she ends up at Jezebel's, and I just can't see how, especially as a known rebel and misfit, she would ever escape from there where she was under constant guard. Even she has given up on escape at Jezebel's.

Something else that worries me a little bit was seeing that on the TV series Offred is wearing a quite beautiful Twenties dress at Jezebel's rather than the shabby feather and sequin item described in the book. I just can't help but wonder if they will go for some 'shock' pieces like the FGM but miss the everyday mundane shabbiness of Gilead and Offred's world which is in many ways more powerful and real.

KatsutheClockworkOctopus · 02/07/2017 09:19

I read the book for a level and the last line resonated with me then and still does now. "And so I step up, into the darkness within, or else the light". I think it encapsulates everything in a way which is devastating and hopeful at the same time.

Pengggwn · 02/07/2017 09:19

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WankYouForTheMusic · 02/07/2017 09:19

I think it's incredibly frustrating as an ending, when you first encounter it. You feel cheated, or I did. Then the idea develops that the cheating is part of the point.

On another subject, what do people think of the TV series removing the white supremacy aspect? For background, in the books, black people are sent to a different area of the US to farm. They never mention anyone who isn't black or white, so I was never sure what happened to people who were Asian, Hispanic etc: they let Jews stay if they wanted, but only if they converted. And in the essay at the end they allude to white birthrates in particular.Then obviously the series is quite explicitly multi-racial.

I had mixed feelings about it. The sort of people MA is basing this on are usually bound up with nativism, white power type movements. It's harder to root Gileadean ideology in movements that already exist, without it. The creators of the series said they didn't think, in a scenario where no babies were being born, that people could afford to be fussy about the ethnicity of the ones who were. I sort of get that, but equally in that case it's weird that there isn't explicit racism in the TV series (although I guess the ones in charge all seem to be Northern European). They're effectively saying that overt racism disappears in a theocracy!

I know also the show's creators said it would be problematic to do an all white series now, because the question would be, why are we focusing on the white people in Gilead instead of the black people that got shipped out to Nebraska or whatever it was. I get that, but personally I'd like to see and read about both stories!

UndersecretaryofWhimsy · 02/07/2017 09:20

I also think that shabby, moulting sequin negligee does a lot to capture the hypocrisy of Gilead.

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Buck3t · 02/07/2017 09:29

Smile Im not sure I get the message then. What is the point of the book. Cause right now we have 5 pages of people arguing over the end. Should it not inspire us to do something? Did it inspire you for example? I'm just not sure. Is it just to make us aware, remind us to be vigilant? A call to arms? Maybe had she ended it differently, the message would be clear to all.

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Pengggwn · 02/07/2017 09:33

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 02/07/2017 09:34

But in terms of the message that book carries? It's a complete ending I agree

Ellisandra · 02/07/2017 09:34

FFS! Don't put spoilers in the bloody thread!
Just because you put "alert" in the post, doesn't mean that people then won't comment and react.
I skipped over your post and then a couple of posts down someone else's comment was revealing.
So bloody thoughtless Angry
For all the "alert", some people can't wait to rush in and be all "in the know" Hmm

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UndersecretaryofWhimsy · 02/07/2017 09:35

Are we arguing? I don't think we are. Lots of people have acknowledged that not knowing what happens to Offred is frustrating on some level, but most of us who have disagreed with you have said the same thing about why it's important to the book's message.

The books message is that this is not fiction. All of it has happened before and all of it, if we aren't careful, will happen again. The message is to fight Gilead where we find it and to never, ever be complacent.

Does it inspire me? Yes. I protest sexism. I donate to BPAS. I won't vote for politicians who have crappy records on women's issues. I educate DH and I will educate my sons. If I were in the US I'd be doing all this and more so.

Ellisandra · 02/07/2017 09:35

I now can't continue reading what was an interesting thread, because I don't know if there will be more references back to the spoiler. Hmm

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 02/07/2017 09:36

FFS! Don't put spoilers in the bloody thread!

The thread title makes it obvious there will be spoilers. Also it's about the book,which is 30 years old, lots of people have read it ,it's not about ' being in the know.'