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To say you can't call cartons of milk 'milks'?

38 replies

MollyHuaCha · 27/06/2017 17:48

As in 'I've just put two milks in the trolley?' overheard at the supermarket.

What has happened to the English language?!

OP posts:
QuirstThenching · 27/06/2017 18:36

I say 'a juice' but that's only to upset DH who can't stand people using it

BishopBrennansArse · 27/06/2017 18:36

Milky milky....

theymademejoin · 27/06/2017 18:37

I'd say I put 2 two milk in the trolley or get me 2 milk. The plural sounds wrong to me

Firesuit · 27/06/2017 18:38

I'd say how many litres in an English supermarket as there are so many different sized bottles and cartons...

You wouldn't need to say how many litres if you were speaking another member of your own household, and your household only ever bought a certain size.

drinkingtea · 27/06/2017 18:38

It is ungrammatical because milk is an uncountable noun.

That doesn't mean you can't use it as short hand. It just means that you'd fail to qualify to work in the NHS as a non native speaker etc.

BishopBrennansArse · 27/06/2017 18:43

Generally in the supermarket I'll tell DH to grab one red milk and one green.... that means 4 pints skimmed and 6 pints of semi.

If it was all the same milk I'd specify how many pints e.g. 6, 8, 12 pints

CasperGutman · 27/06/2017 18:57

"Two milks" is fine according to my personal built-in descriptive grammar. It's not very specific, of course, and it's meaning would depend on context. If I were asking my children what they wanted to drink then tge "milks" would be glasses; if my wife and I were discussing what to buy at the shop then they would be bottles.

Of course, this is still vague. For this reason a discussion of what to buy would be more likely to refer to "two four-pint bottles of milk" or conceivably "two four-pint milks"! After the shopping trip, someone might well ask "Did you get the milks?" though.

MollyHuaCha · 27/06/2017 19:08

My DH says 'I'm just going to make the cup of teas'

Molly says 'Aaaaaaaaagh!' Shock

(Thanks for your replies everyone x)

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Upsy1981 · 27/06/2017 20:12

I work in a school and the children have milk in the morning which I sometimes collect from the fridge for my class and another class. I will ask 'how many milks do you need today?'

ArtemisiaGentilleschi · 27/06/2017 20:19

All that has happened is that the container, which renders milk countable, has been elided, but because of context, we all know that the speaker doesn't really think "milk" on its own is countable.

Examples like the OP's are often used to show why we shouldn't teach blanket grammar rules to students (especially non native speakers) but use a method whereby rules are extrapolated from examples they come across.

AndTakeYourHorseWithYou · 27/06/2017 20:22

It is ungrammatical because milk is an uncountable noun

Not in the context it is being used, it's easily countable. One (whatever size container of) milk, two (whatever size container of) milks.

Grammatical in the context.

dementedma · 27/06/2017 20:26

Anyone else thinking of Victoria Wood and two soups ?Grin

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