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AIBU to tell my mum to leave her husband?

21 replies

DontTouchTheMoustache · 25/06/2017 18:51

Apologies as this may be long. My mum has been with her partner for just shy of 20 years, prior to this he was married to another woman who he had named on his will as the sole beneficiary. When they broke up he changed it to say that his 2 nieces will receive everything. He married my mum 2 years ago but refuses to change it again (despite having changed it 4 years ago when his niece had a child). So currently my mum would receive his pension and a small amount of any life insurance. That in itself would not be such a big deal except that he is telling my mum that the only reason he isn't changing it is that now he is married his will is no longer enforceable and she will.get everything.

There is a huge backstory with it all, he refused to live with her until we had all moved away so they have only been living together for about 5 years. He made my mum sell he house because his uncle died and he inherited enough to pay off his mortgage. He was then made redundant and has not looked for work since (he is in his early fifties). Despite having no mortgage to pay he makes my mum pay him £600 and when she questioned this he said that he needs it because his redundancy money has nearly run out and she would pay more if she rented somewhere Hmm but he won't put her on the deeds either. So even though she is paying him this money (she also pays for all of the food, drinks, travel, holidays etc) he has made sure she won't get the house and says it's fine because she can live in it as long as she likes or sell it to buy somewhere bigger and then his nieces will get that house instead.

My mum was upset when she spoke to me and said she thinks he is trying to make sure that me, my brother and sister won't get any of his money. I understand that and wouldn't want any of his money but my mum could have bought her own house instead of paying for him for 5 bloody years. She feels like it's not an even partnership and that it shows he doesn't think much of her.

He has had his issued with us, he banned my sister from his house so she couldn't even come for Christmas because he doenst like her partner (her partner came round to his with wine and chocolates to try and speak to him but he wouldn't even go to the door). Last year I had my son and a few weeks later lost my partner, I then found out my landlord was selling the house and when I managed to find somewhere new I needed a guarantor due to being on maternity leave. My mum instantly volunteered (I have a well paid job and have never had issues with money or debt so she knew there was no chance it would be an issue). I was on the phone to her and he came in shouting at her, she thought she had hung up but I could hear him screaming at her "you stupid fucking woman, you never think anything true" and telling her I was untrustworthy (I have no idea what he has based this on)

Anyway there are a million things I could say on this subject and I've been worried about my mum for years. He is also an alcoholic which is why he can't work. I'm really looking for advice on what rights she has with regards to the Will (i.e. could she contest it as a spouse). She said to me today that she is thinking of moving out and I want to tell her I think she should but I don't know if my dislike of him is clouding my judgement, I don't want to be the one to tell her to leave if it will make her unhappy.

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Pengggwn · 25/06/2017 18:53

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DontTouchTheMoustache · 25/06/2017 18:55

Sorry that was a bit rambly - should say she pays him £600 per month and also that he told her that she never thinks anything through not true

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GeorgeTheHamster · 25/06/2017 18:58

Marriage does revoke a Will though

www.bbc-law.co.uk/legal-news/wills-and-marriage/

ImperialBlether · 25/06/2017 19:01

Once you marry, previous Wills are void as far as I know. However, the question is whether she should stay married to him. Why on earth did she sell her house?

CheeseBubbles · 25/06/2017 19:02

Your Dislike of him should be a reason she should leave.

I could never be with a man who wouldn't let my daughter in my own home! Why are any of you speaking to him at all.

Fuck that guy. Yes she should leave him. And get half his bloody house

DontLetMeBeMisunderstood · 25/06/2017 19:03

He sounds awful, your poor mum. She should get some legal advice re finances before she moves out would be my suggestion, it sounds like it could be complicated if he can't work and they haven't been married long but a solicitor will be able to advise.

DontTouchTheMoustache · 25/06/2017 19:03

Fair enough George, I don't know anything about will making etc, I know their family had a lot of fall outs after his uncle died so it's been a huge bone of contention in his family.

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WideHorizon · 25/06/2017 19:04

Marriage does invalidate a will though...

DontTouchTheMoustache · 25/06/2017 19:08

I stopped speaking to him a few times cheese but I can see how hard it is for her when I do. I think she stays because she has no confidence in herself at all. She is 61 and a fair bit older than him, I think she is afraid she will be lonely. He has chipped away at her confidence for years, even when she called me earlier she kept apologising for bothering me with it and "annoying me" (of course she wasn't but she thinks so little of herself). She had suffered from depression since I was a child including a few suicide attempts and has such low self esteem. It breaks my heart. Sometimes she lends my sister money (not much but she is her daughter and has 2 children so my mum wants to help her out) but she has to do it in secret because he shouts at her if.he ever finds out even though it's her daughter and her money

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ijustwannadance · 25/06/2017 19:08

What has she done with the money from selling her house? Mortgage or not, she should not be the only one paying for everything.

He sounds like a complete tosser.

CheeseBubbles · 25/06/2017 19:11

Would you be OK with her living with you for a month? Give her sometime to get back to normal just to see how she feels?

Crispbutty · 25/06/2017 19:11

Marriage will make his previous will void, however I would suggest she see a solicitor asap and find out what she can.

I'm in the middle of financial settlement dispute with my ex at the moment and it's hell.

She should gather up all proof that she can of anything she has paid for over the years including shopping, holidays, gifts.. absolutely everything she can think of.

DontTouchTheMoustache · 25/06/2017 19:12

ijust she didn't get much for it in the end as there were a lot of issues and the banks wouldn't lend the mortgages after the surveyors reports so she sold at a low price to a building company. She paid of a lot of debt and I think she has about £10k in savings which they are supposed to be putting towards a new house. He wanted to move nearer to his parents which she was fine with but she needs to find a job so he said he would move into the new house and "rent" his old house to her! Not sure what they are going to do now.

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Crispbutty · 25/06/2017 19:13

And she would definitely be happier with her family around her and him not in her life making it so miserable. It can often be lonlier WITH someone than on your own. And by the sounds of it she is fairly lonely now.

RockyBird · 25/06/2017 19:13

She should divorce his arse.

DontTouchTheMoustache · 25/06/2017 19:16

Yes cheese I've said she is welcome to stay with me but unfortunately I live in Yorkshire and she lives in Lancashire and doesn't drive so getting to work would be an issue (though not necessarily impossible). She knows the option is there for her if she needs it.

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CheeseBubbles · 25/06/2017 19:21

Oh that's good. So she's going to be isolated with him and an older version of him.

Get her out OP!

CheeseBubbles · 25/06/2017 19:22

She can take some holiday to stay with you see how she feels and then look for work near by

ijustwannadance · 25/06/2017 19:26

She should divorce him, she might end up with enough to re-settle herself away from him.

Madwoman5 · 25/06/2017 19:32

Sugar mumma. He has her exactly where he wants her. Financing his life for a roof over her head whilst he drinks away her bank balance and gives nothing in return. It is vile. She has to take the steps to leave this abuser and be free again.

RubyReins · 25/06/2017 19:34

It may not be in point at all but marriage does not invalidate a prior will in Scotland. Just in case your mum and her husband are north of the border.

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