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Is an OU degree just as recognised as actually going to uni?

124 replies

harlaandfowkes · 19/06/2017 15:24

There are no entry requirements, you study in your own time and will have less debt, sounds great.

AIBU to think that realistically employers aren't going to pick me over someone who's also studied a-levels/access and has actually been to university in a formal setting? I've just signed up for a psychology degree and I'm dithering. I don't know what to do. I can't actually go to uni as I need to keep working.

I'm in a dead end job that I hate and want out.

I'm young so no excuses really. I probably just need a kick up the bum.

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EverythingUnderTheSun · 19/06/2017 21:17

Whimsy it'll take you a while to get the BA anyway.

I don't know if/how much it matters, but the OU psychology degree is a Bsc.

barrygibbscheekbones · 19/06/2017 21:24

Everything when I did my OU Psychology degree, I was able to choose whether I had a BA or BSC. I chose BSC.

This was a few years ago, so things may have changed.

user1497480444 · 19/06/2017 21:30

It is of MORE value than a degree from attending university at 18. i have both, and the OU one is more respected, definitely. Also, why do you think there are no entrance requirements? There are stringent entrance requirements.

gwenneh · 19/06/2017 21:33

I know my postgrad had entry requirements, certainly. Not sure about undergrad though.

OutToGetYou · 19/06/2017 21:37

There were no entrance requirements for my OU law degree, you were told what it involved but had to make your own decision whether you were up to it, and the only other was that you could pay for it.

I only have 4 very poor and unrelated O levels and I went on and did law at the OU (and got a first..)

blueskyinmarch · 19/06/2017 21:45

My OU psychology degree is a BA. I was able to choose what I wanted. I already had a BSc so I chose the BA title.

igivein · 19/06/2017 21:59

I did an OU degree. I then got a job as a lecturer in a 'brick' university. My degree's worth exactly the same as anyone else's!

WhooooAmI24601 · 19/06/2017 22:01

I got a degree from an actual Uni after finishing A Levels then studied for another through the OU after DS1 arrived. Best thing I ever did and I can say hand on heart the OU degree is the one that's added most value to everything I do.

harlaandfowkes · 19/06/2017 22:09

user it says on every undergrad course 'there are no formal entry requirements'. I think that's part of what got me thinking that it's not a 'proper' degree.

What is the difference between BA and BSC?

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SeagullsStoleMyChurro · 19/06/2017 22:11

Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Science.

Leatherboundanddown · 19/06/2017 22:18

I loved doing my OU degree. It changed my life. I now work for them sometimes too.

Iona is being quite ignorant and clearly has a chip on shoulder about something. Not sure why you seem to be suggesting our OU degrees are lesser? Could you expand?

You are wrong about (Open) also, as others have already told you but you have chosen to ignore, this only applies to where you do a combination of modules not on a named pathway. It can also apply if you use credit transfer from another institution to make up part of your degree.

KnitFastDieWarm · 19/06/2017 22:23

The reason there are no formal entry requirements for OU undergrad degrees is that one of the key principles of the OU is that it's not what you've done academically in the past that matters, it's what you can do NOW. I think this is a wonderful idea. It means people who didn't do well academically at school can build up to degree level study from scratch. At the end of the day, you still have to do the work and you still have to have ability, if anything OU undergrad marking is said to be harsher. But there's loads of support on offer to help you get there.
I chose OU as a postgrad because I'm at home with a baby and a brick uni postgrad offering the research areas I wanted wasn't feasible. I love it and I think it's an amazing, egalitarian institution. I highly recommend it Smile

ContraryToPopularBelief · 19/06/2017 22:29

One of the utterly fab things about the OU is that the modules are designed to take you from 'no entry requirements needed' to the same level as brick uni degrees at the end.

You will need a good level of commitment but most modules have active Facebook groups and I think that helps combat the feeling of isolation.

As someone else said you can bow out with a lower qualification if completing the full degree ends up not to be attainable.

ContraryToPopularBelief · 19/06/2017 22:30

Oh and yes the OU marking system is brutal.

flyingwithwings · 19/06/2017 22:41

This site is quite remarkable in that on every posting , there is always 'virture signalling' from posters highlighting how they understand the struggles many go through everyday !

This can be to suggest how people believe education should enable a person to advance themselves upwards in social mobility or perhaps receive greater reward for hard physical work.

However, when it comes to which University or how someone obtained a degree , the So called 'social' campaigners are the most 'snobby' and dismissive of any body!

Of course any O.U degree is as worthy as any degree , especially as many /most have overcome adversity challenges such as being written off by the education system.

user1497480444 · 20/06/2017 05:24

ah well, there were entry requirements for the modules I chose, but i think you are right about there being no entry requirements for the OU overall, you are just guided towards the right starting point.

DrunkenUnicorn · 20/06/2017 05:45

It's really interesting to hear the OU aid so highly regarded.

Does anyone know of you can transfer credit from another university? Even if it was a while ago?

I started a degree at a red brick university at 18, and managed (iirc) 300 CATS out of a 360 CAT degree. I then dropped out due to it all being a bit too much. (Partly mental health issues but mainly we had had to move house and it was a two hour commute each way and I had lectures in the early evening and no childcare).

Whilst it made sense at the time it is something I'm somewhat ashamed of, that I gave up and don't have s degree.

I would love to be able to complete it, but it's now past the 10years you had to have finished a p/t degree in, so I assumed I'd missed the boat.

Anyone know if I'd be able to transfer what I'd done over, or because i started it so long ago, 2004, that it wouldn't be possible/records of me no longer held etc?

Thank you and so sorry to derail.

GoldilocksAndTheThreePears · 20/06/2017 05:57

I've been deeply considering doing a degree with OU, well technically completing one as I did the first year about 8 years back. But I can't find a route with no exams which would be impossible for me, and I'm not sure how good their disability support is. I've found many mixed comments on various forums.

SteppingOnToes · 20/06/2017 05:59

Many universities offer degrees by distance learning now, not just OU :) I'm currently doing my masters DL and even managed to get a student loan to pay for it :)

HelloCanYouHearMe · 20/06/2017 06:43

Drunken You can credit transfer AFAIK. It was certainly the case when i studied with them in 2002.

But dont take the word of a stranger on the internet - drop them a line. They are incredibly helpful.

Interestingly though, I have been told that they have announced a massive cut to their budget.... I wonder how this will impact on their teaching?

KusamaDot · 20/06/2017 06:46

DrunlenUnicorn, I was in a similar position though hadn't managed to complete as much as you. I regretted it for years and decided to go for an OU degree, just waiting for my final results now. My previous study was from around the same time as you and I couldn't transfer as they deemed it too old, but did you get an exit qualification from your previous uni? I didn't realise I could and called them up a few years after, they sent me a CertHe for the year I'd managed to complete. It may be worth contacting your old uni and you should be able to get a DipHe if not a degree without honours for the credits you've completed. Worth an email to find out.

shouldwestayorshouldwego · 20/06/2017 06:55

You can transfer credits in and out of the OU but there is still a time limit. Some students complete level 1 at the OU before transferring credits to a brick uni - it's a way to dip your toe in the water and see if it suits you before giving up a job.

The degrees are quite rigourous and take you from a basic level to a level equivalent of any other degree. At least at first most material is drawn from secondary sources (module text book/ website), so transferring to another uni after level 1 might take some adjusting to.

The psychology degree itself (like all other UK BPS accredited psychology degrees) will contain quite a bit of statistics. There is support for this but if you struggle with Maths then you might find it challenging.

Although there is no longer a summer school I would say that the students who regularly attend either the face to face or (often evening) online tutorials do gain the most from the tutorials.

Although you might be told that you can complete the degree in 3-4 years it is really designed to be done over 6 years and I would say that speeding it up will probably compromise either your enjoyment, grades or both. Doing two sixty point modules is essentially the same as being full time at university but without the maintenance loan.

To work in psychology at the end of level one I would try to be aiming for the later grades on DE100 (second level one module) over 70%.

shouldwestayorshouldwego · 20/06/2017 07:03

Goldilocks if it helps then often exams can be arranged to be sat at home/ with breaks/ on laptops to accommodate your disability. Tutorials generally all have online alternatives so you can attend at home. Tutors will be aware of your disability and do their best to make adaptations to enable you to study.

showmeislands · 20/06/2017 07:14

Nothing wrong with the OU!

I'm a psychologist in the NHS - did my first degree (not in psychology) at Oxford University and then went on to do a postgrad diploma in psychology (conversion) via the OU. I was fine with doing this. It was a good fit for me as I was working and moved city halfway through.

I went on to do a MSc and doctorate in psychology at other unis, in order to qualify as a psychologist. Certainly the OU never held me back - it helped me on my way! I don't feel it was ever looked down on or not seen as valid, and that's even with just doing a conversion rather than a 'proper' degree in psychology.

Cary2012 · 20/06/2017 07:16

What I loved about my OU degree was the flexibility of module choices, for example my BA in Literature comprised modules that appealed to me, so a colleague who also has a BA in Lit with the OU did three different modules to mine. You have to gain so many points, and do so many Level three courses but you can 'pick and mix' your options.

I liked it also because you can study at your pace, so when I started I worked part time and had three kids under 5 yrs, so when life got in the way I took a gap between modules to catch my breath.

I loved the local tutorials, the summer schools and study days. I appreciate this may have changed, but they were excellent. There was also an online community called Firstclass, which was very helpful and made me feel supported and part of a wider community.

In an ideal world, and with the benefit of hindsight, I should have worked harder at school and taken my A levels and gone on to a brick uni, but I didn't. And my parents wouldn't have been in a position to financially support me then anyway.

I finally realised that I had underachieved in my 30s, so took A Level English at a local evening class, and having done well in that, started my OU studies in my forties. I got the Diploma in Lit, which in itself is great, but also it counted towards my overall degree.

The TMAs were always returned with a lot of constructive feedback, and marked harshly, but correctly. The exams were challenging, very professional and whoever said there is scope to cheat, please explain how? We were even followed to the toilet by an invigilator!

It doesn't replace the life experience offered by a brick uni, but for me, in my circumstances it was a positive, life enhancing experience because it enabled me to achieve my potential, after I thought I'd missed my chance.