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AIBU not to pay this call out charge?

40 replies

IrritatedUser1960 · 18/06/2017 13:25

My hot water hasn't been working for a while. The system is quite complex so I spent a while going through the yellow pages looking for a local gas registered plumber with the necessary qualifications to come and look at it.
He came over, looked it all over for no more than 10 minutes and clearly decided he couldn't fix this system as he didn't have the necessary expertise even though I had explained the system on the phone beforehand.
Left and then sent me a bill for £50 which is his call out charge, now i'm sorry but anyone can stand in front of my boiler sucking their teeth for 10 minutes. He didn't do any work, didn't make any suggestions or recommendations just said he didn't know what to do then left.
he lives one mile away, I offered £10 for petrol and damageto teeth from sucking them and thought that was quite reasonable.
He says he wants the full £50. I'm not paying him.
I'm a podiatrist, if I was to go to someones house, look at their feet for 5 minutes before saying I have no idea what to do with their particular problem there is no way I would charge my full fee. I would also make a recommendation to a colleague or ask them to go to their GP.
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AnneElliott · 18/06/2017 14:42

I don't think you should pay - if you gave a detailed explanation on the phone then he should have decided not to come based on that.

I agree send him a cheque for £10 with a letter indicating it's full and final settlement.

DH doesn't charge if he can't help (he's a building inspector/ architect). And he often helps people out for free with advice if they're in a pickle!

The cynic in me suggests call out charges for doing noting at all might make a reasonable living!

RB68 · 18/06/2017 14:43

I think the critical thing here is she asked him if he had worked with this system before and he said yes so he lied

Serialweightwatcher · 18/06/2017 14:55

I wouldn't pay either - I could go to someone's house and do that because I have no clue about boilers. A decent engineer would have asked enough over the phone to tell you if it was worth your while them coming to see or not and presumably telling you if they knew nothing about the system you use - think that's so cheeky and wrong

turbohamster · 18/06/2017 14:57

A call out fee is fine, if they've diagnosed the problem even if it's not something fixable there and then. To come out and then say I don't even know enough to tell you what could be wrong means the call out fee should be waived imo.

TheMysteriousJackelope · 18/06/2017 14:59

I would expect a professional, who isn't sure what is causing the problem, to contact the system manufacturer technical support and get help. Once the problem is diagnosed he probably would be able to fix it. Sucking his teeth and leaving is pathetic.

pringlecat · 18/06/2017 15:00

What exactly did he do? Yes, he couldn't fix it, but did he tell you what the problem was? Refer you onto someone with more appropriate qualifications who could help? He must have done something to justify the £50 call out charge, otherwise I could charge you £50 for staring at your boiler and telling you I have no idea what's wrong with it!

If he contributed naff all to fixing your boiler, I would refuse to pay due to unsatisfactory work.

quidditys · 18/06/2017 15:04

It depends if he literally looked at it and did nothing, or if he tried a few things and after that didn't know what was wrong with it. If you told him on the phone "it's a XY type system" and he only knows how to work on XZ type systems, then he was just wasting time and expecting payment for nothing.

purpleleotard · 18/06/2017 15:21

Have you checked that he is Gas Safe registered?

Callaird · 18/06/2017 15:26

We had a problem with the boiler in our new house, I called three plumbers, one said he would charge a full diagnostics check but would take the fee off the bill if we went through him, the other two didn't say anything like that.

First guy came and did a diagnostic check, was here for an hour, moving furniture and cupboard backs to see what the problem was (quoted £12k) second one was here for 10 minutes said it it could be a number of things, that they would start with the most likely and work through it all until the problem was solved (quote started at £1.5 to £8k) third one came, spent ages looking around, found a pump that was broken (quoted £250!)

We went with the third (and the problem was solved) when the bill came it was £75 more than quoted, I called the boss, he said that was for the diagnostics call out, I said I had to get back to him, called a solicitor friend, who then called him back, said that we were never informed of the call out fee and so he could not charge us for one. The boss called me back and said that he definitely told me about the call out fee when I called, I asked his name and then told him I didn't speak to him, that I spoke to his father, who is the actual boss but doesn't work as often anymore (all told to me by the plumber who came out to do call out and came back to replace the part) he then told me his dad was old and forgetful and that I should still pay for it, I said that my solicitor says that as you didn't advise me of the call out charge, they couldn't charge me it. He took it off (and his lovely dad came round (for free) to look at sorting out our antiquated plumbing system, was with me for 1.5 hours, told me exactly what needs doing, had a cup of tea and cake and told me about his grandchildren! He also said that no work man can charge a call out fee if they don't advise you of it before they come!)

CheeseCrackersAndWine · 18/06/2017 15:58

He sounds like a chancer! £50 for nothing basically-£10 sounds generous. Our boiler broke a few weeks ago. DH thought it might have been the fuse but called an engineer anyway. He came round, looked at it for 30 seconds,told us it was the fuse, charged us £30 and left. However, we didn't grudge it as he did actually tell us how to fix it (even if DH half knew already!) I'd have been pretty annoyed if he charged us that without any sort of help whatsoever!

BoggledMind · 18/06/2017 16:10

I wouldn't pay the full amount...just a minimum payment for his travel and time perhaps. For all you know he could be a complete cowboy who makes a living charging call out fees but always "unable" to
do the work. If he has only a few customers a day who he does this to can you imagine how much he could earn a week for doing absolutely nothing.

chipscheeseandgravy · 18/06/2017 16:18

Your being unreasonable to not pay. He could have chosen another job, but, he chose to come to you. It's annoying he doesn't have a solution but that doesn't necessarily mean he hasn't worked on your type of boiler before.
If you've had to call someone out before can't you just use the same tradesman you used last time.

RoseVase2010 · 18/06/2017 16:28

What's to stop anyone doing this though ? 2 call outs a day £500 a week - easy money for doing nothing else but getting in your car and driving a few miles.

Reputation. You can't be dishonest and long term profitable, that's why all the best tradesman are found through word of mouth. DH would be gutted if he found out a customer thought him incompetent or dishonest.

LivingOnAnIsland · 18/06/2017 16:49

If he said beforehand that there was a £50 call out charge, then you should pay it. If he didn't, then £10 for petrol is very generous.

malmi · 19/06/2017 00:32

Hmm, I think I'll advertise myself as a local electrician, piano tuner, chiropodist, personal trainer, computer repair technician, etc. Call out charge £50. Then just turn up to any booking, apologize for not knowing what to do, and collect the £50! Anyone who questions this is clearly VVU, they agreed to the charge when they called me out!

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